Sony was the #1 Mirrorless Camera & Mirrorless Lens Brand in North America in 2021
Feb 25, 2022 05:47:59 #
Feb 25, 2022 06:20:45 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
BudsOwl wrote:
Who really cares?
You would be surprised.
Feb 25, 2022 06:22:03 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
CHG_CANON wrote:
The Fro knows asterisks https://youtu.be/jtr42ynCKn4?t=270 << link starts at 4:30 timemark and the Canon / Sony back n forth.
The Sony announcement came with six (6) qualifiers for how they've self-rated themselves at #1. If Canon sold more total mirrorless cameras in NA in 2021, and they needed only four (4) qualifiers to layout this market leadership position, who is really #1?
The Sony announcement came with six (6) qualifiers for how they've self-rated themselves at #1. If Canon sold more total mirrorless cameras in NA in 2021, and they needed only four (4) qualifiers to layout this market leadership position, who is really #1?
Every one know Nikon is the true leader in optic manufacturing.
Feb 25, 2022 07:13:46 #
sheldon minsky
Loc: iron mountain michigan
OldSchool-WI wrote:
"My John Deere tractor can run circles around your International Harvester---neay--neay!"
My old Ford 8N can take that bet.
Feb 25, 2022 07:47:45 #
It's easy to get excited...or non plussed by it all...from the view of a stander by.
But it is always good from a business perspective on who is doing well...getting enough coin back on investments (which is in turn used to keep them competitive and in the quick paced tech race)...and who isn't.
Financials are the signs on the photography road we travel....ignore the signs or not...up to you.
Now Canon and Sony are in a bit of a pissing match...Canon doesn't like that press release...naturally.
Ebb and flow of markets is nothing new.
Always best to look at the 5 year (minimum) financials of everyone.
Canon...had some red...but turned it around pretty well.
Sony...lots of black...all mirrorless and number one... a focused profit.
Nikon...whooboy...red red red.
The rest...very small markets. Eyes open always...
But it is always good from a business perspective on who is doing well...getting enough coin back on investments (which is in turn used to keep them competitive and in the quick paced tech race)...and who isn't.
Financials are the signs on the photography road we travel....ignore the signs or not...up to you.
Now Canon and Sony are in a bit of a pissing match...Canon doesn't like that press release...naturally.
Ebb and flow of markets is nothing new.
Always best to look at the 5 year (minimum) financials of everyone.
Canon...had some red...but turned it around pretty well.
Sony...lots of black...all mirrorless and number one... a focused profit.
Nikon...whooboy...red red red.
The rest...very small markets. Eyes open always...
Feb 25, 2022 08:31:08 #
Feb 25, 2022 09:09:19 #
OldSchool-WI wrote:
On this thread about the supremacy of the Sony in MIRRORLES DSLRs...
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Perception?
Just because it was the most popular means that it was the "supreme camera"?
I took it as simply the most sold.
Feb 25, 2022 09:12:13 #
Feb 25, 2022 09:20:02 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Sony was the #1 Mirrorless Camera & Mirrorless Lens Brand in North America in 2021
https://www.newsshooter.com/2022/02/17/sony-was-the-1-mirrorless-camera-mirrorless-lens-brand-in-north-america-in-2021/
Cheers
https://www.newsshooter.com/2022/02/17/sony-was-the-1-mirrorless-camera-mirrorless-lens-brand-in-north-america-in-2021/
Cheers
Good for Sony! I have no plans to change systems as mine perfectly meet my needs. Next topic.
Feb 25, 2022 09:20:35 #
RKL349 wrote:
Good for Sony! I have no plans to change systems as mine perfectly meet my needs. Next topic.
Feb 25, 2022 09:21:54 #
BudsOwl wrote:
Who really cares?
Mainly, a Sony fan looking to rationalize their most recent purchase decision and the glory of being “part” of the popularity movement.
Feb 25, 2022 09:26:10 #
Finding quick graphics for 2021 or updated for 2022 isn't as easy this early in the 2022 calendar year. As recently as 2020, below, Canon's market share was bigger than Sony and Nikon combined. Sony is taking market share from everyone, but more so from Nikon than Canon. The 2021 full-frame mirrorless releases from all three may rejuggle their relative positions, but their overall positions are unlikely to substantially change, regardless of Sony's highly qualified(******) reporting of initial 2021 sales numbers.
Feb 25, 2022 09:32:28 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Finding quick graphics for 2021 or updated for 202... (show quote)
And some people don't realize that market share, or popularity, doesn't mean it's the "best", simply the most popular.
Like getting votes on...
Feb 25, 2022 09:53:41 #
Longshadow wrote:
And some people don't realize that market share, or popularity, doesn't mean it's the "best", simply the most popular.
Like getting votes on...
Like getting votes on...
What the larger UHH community seems to not understand is the decline of the camera market worldwide, a -80% decline in 11-years. The annotated chart below was lifted from a Nov 2021 analysis at https://petapixel.com/2021/11/26/back-where-we-started-the-camera-industry-is-again-a-bit-part-player/
The analysis shows the longer historical market (need) for cameras is around 5-million units per year, something Canon's CEO also said in 2021. Major new technology developments like compact 35mm film cameras or all new digital cameras can greatly expand the market, but only for a few years until numbers return to 'normal'.
In a declining market, that's where marketshare and relative size come into play, something that does not bode well for the smaller competitors fighting for any piece of a smaller and smaller pie.
Feb 25, 2022 09:56:52 #
We, on this forum, think of all of this as some sort of gear war. But it is a business war no different than Ford v Chevy v Toyota. Approached from that angle the discussions can be more relevant because the gear is all good. Better than most of us, at least me, can fully utilize. Business practices, marketing etc are not always successful. As they saying goes, amateurs talk tactics and soldiers talk logistics. Amateurs talk gear and photographers talk artistry.
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