Trump sides with Putin (Page 2): I usually don't participate in the name-calling, but what is dumb is deliberately misconstruing the facts in order to claim that "Trump came out in...

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

DennyT wrote:

Yes a dumb post

I usually don't participate in the name-calling, but what is dumb is deliberately misconstruing the facts in order to claim that "Trump came out in support of Putin's attack on Ukraine. Siding with the enemies of the United States is so very Trumpian."

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

David Martin wrote:

I usually don't participate in the name-calling, but what is dumb is deliberately misconstruing the facts in order to claim that "Trump came out in support of Putin's attack on Ukraine. Siding with the enemies of the United States is so very Trumpian."

Misconstruing facts pretty well sums up much of the Attic banter with extremist proclamations leading the way.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

Frank T wrote:

Shouldn't be any shock at the news that Trump came out in support of Putin's attack on Ukraine. Siding with the enemies of the United States is so very Trumpian.
Here's a link that you can read all about it.
Trump wackos need not respond.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-joe-biden/index.html

Merely acknowledging the "genius" is not necessarily an approval or disapproval of putin's actions. Even today most can acknowledge the genius of the atomic bomb attack on japan, but some do not approve of the usage of the nuke

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

boberic wrote:

Merely acknowledging the "genius" is not necessarily an approval or disapproval of putin's actions. Even today most can acknowledge the genius of the atomic bomb attack on japan, but some do not approve of the usage of the nuke

What good did Trump’s comments do for the U.S. at this perilous time? Nothing. He should have said nothing about his close relationship with Putin, and the genius that he believes Putin to be. Often, things should be left unsaid if those beliefs do more harm than good.
Putin is a murderous spy, who deserves no praise from a past President. It is sad, and ridiculous. I cannot believe how good Americans can defend such obvious detrimental comments from Trump. Putin is not our friend, even though Trump thinks he is such a nice genius. What has gone so wrong in this country? Trump continues to work against the U.S., and people still think he is a good patriot. Crap!
Mitch was way out of line as well. What good did his comments do for America or the Ukraine? Nothing.

Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

idaholover wrote:

Putin is a genius....he knew better than to pull this crap while Trump was in office.

Like he did in Syria and the Kurds?
Like he did in Crimea?

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

dlwhawaii wrote:

Why? Trump would have sent troops to support Putin against the Ukranians.

For example, the Biden White House came out today saying they have more sanctions in store if Putin escalates. Why in the world have they held anything back at this point. He crossed a sovereign border and occupied Ukrainian land for goodness sake.

It's another Obama "Red Line" moment and it just shows how weak Biden has made the US. We should do everything in our power to stop him except for putting troops on the ground and we need to pull out all the stops at once.

As a small example, I do business with a small Russian company that sells old military vacuum tubes. Their website is still up and available from the US and is still taking orders from US customers. All E-commerce out of Russia should be off. We should be launching a cyber war against the Russians and trying to deny them any kind of foreign revenue. Every Russian financial holding in foreign banks should be forfeit. Their end of the Nord Stream pipeline should be full of Baltic Sea life.

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

Harry0 wrote:

Like he did in Syria and the Kurds?
Like he did in Crimea?

In Syria he lost 300 troops to US weapons. The Crimea was taken under Obama.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

idaholover wrote:

Putin is a genius....he knew better than to pull this crap while Trump was in office.

Yeah, he was to busy interfere with our election to help his puppet get in office.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

David Martin wrote:

Recognizing an act as "genius" is not th... (show quote)

Hitler's blitzkrieg into France was also a stroke of genius. I am not aware of Churchill, FDR or any leading Republicans of the day saying nothing nut utter condemnation for the act--even though there was a significant pro Hitler movement at the day (interestingly called "America First") that included the likes of Charles Limburg and Henry Ford.

And as far as Biden is concerned, please tell us specifically what Biden should have done or should do now.

And you telling anyone else that their bias is showing is rich indeed.

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

idaholover wrote:

"Trump wackos need not respond. " Maybe AOC and Pelosi could introduce a law.

Oh, like a color swap in photography... the Green New Deal would be the Red New Deal.
Trump wacko is a problem since he has many Sheeple who follow him. Sheeple were once People, but now they just follow and when Trump says Baaaaaa they just agree and make the same noise.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Bazbo wrote:

And as far as Biden is concerned, please tell us specifically what Biden should have done or should do now.

Restore energy independence. Ramp up production so the price of oil falls (it was ~$20/barrel in early 2020). Supply clean energy to western allies currently dependent on less clean Russian energy. Russia will lose critical income.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Bazbo wrote:

And you telling anyone else that their bias is showing is rich indeed.

I was responding to the OP's directive that "Trump wackos need not respond."
I think I correctly detected bias. Do you disagree?

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

idaholover wrote:

Then why didn't Putin do that?

I have no idea and neither do you .

Let’s be honest - what’s going on in Ukraine is Ukraine’s business. They has Been involved in a civil war in a large part of their country for nearly a decade.

Not sure what you would have america do . Right now all most here do is use it as a excuse for partisan sniping. How many are even wondering what the Ukrainians themselves want.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

David Martin wrote:

I was responding to the OP's directive that "Trump wackos need not respond."
I think I correctly detected bias. Do you disagree?

I don't care about anyone's bias including yours. My point is that you are as biased and partisan as anyone here, including in your response. Just don't hold yourself out as objective as you criticize the bias of others.

BTW, here's my bias: Trump should be condemning Russia for this action not praising Putin as a genius. This just gives aid and comfort to a man that is nothing more than a blatant liar, shallow propagandist and a feral war criminal. Anyone making common cause with Putin should be ashamed. Do you disagree?

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

David Martin wrote:

Calling my post "dumb"? Are you 5 years ... (show quote)

No, they have no situational awareness that the feeble nincompoop they voted for is degrading our country and losing, losing, losing in everything he does. None of this would have happened under Trump.