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Feb 20, 2022 17:44:46   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
donphotog wrote:
I’ve been seriously considering the Fuji GFX 100S which is garnering rave reviews for landscape, portrait and studio work. Bigger than my beautiful Fuji X-T2 and X-T30. Do we really need 100 megapixels? Are the files monstrous? The resolution and dynamic range are reportedly fantastic. Patrick at fujirumors.com got one and loves it. But I can get 30X40 prints out of processed jpegs from the “little” Fujis so do I need the added weight and expense? Can’t get myself to do it. What do you all think?
I’ve been seriously considering the Fuji GFX 100S ... (show quote)


It's your money. Spend as you see fit.

Ann Landers once said she usually got letters from people who *needed* to be spanked, to bring them back to reality. If your reality includes a GFX 100S, or even the 50S, so be it. They're incredible cameras for the price. In my dreams, I'd be a landscape photographer, and use a GFX 100S to photograph national parks for 8' high, hallway length composite panorama prints with insane amounts of detail.

But MY reality beckons... Unless I needed a lot of 30x40 prints that would be viewed from VERY close distances (about a foot), I'd buy something more important than another camera. I'm happy with a lowly Micro 4/3 16MP camera and Lightroom Classic's Photo Enhance Raw Details with Super Resolution. See attached 40x30 from a Lumix GH4. Please pixel peep the download.

Of course, better results can be obtained from any new full frame mirrorless camera above 30 MP. At that point, I would argue you are into the realm of diminishing marginal returns on expenditures. But smoke 'em if ya got 'em, right?

40x30 inches at 240 PPI from 16MP Micro 4/3 full image
40x30 inches at 240 PPI from 16MP Micro 4/3 full i...
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Feb 20, 2022 17:49:29   #
alexol
 
I'm interested in buying one simply because I'd enjoy using it. No other reason required. And no need or desire to make big prints.

For around 95% of the photos we see on here, a phone would be good enough, never mind FF or MF. Now I'll wait patiently for the usual barrage from the BIF people...

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Feb 20, 2022 17:59:35   #
Canisdirus
 
mudduck wrote:
Gee, with everybody loving FF sensors, it seems to me a sensor the size of a Graham cracker would be advantageous.



It's about balance more than sensor size.

FF is easily the most balanced sensor out there...giving the best bang for the buck...and then some.

MF had it's day...in film.
Digitally...it's a big yawn.

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Feb 20, 2022 18:08:45   #
alexol
 
Canisdirus wrote:
It's about balance more than sensor size.

FF is easily the most balanced sensor out there...giving the best bang for the buck...and then some.

MF had it's day...in film.
Digitally...it's a big yawn.



Competent photographers obtain some spectacular results from phone, bridge cameras, and APS sensors as well as FF.

Few people truly "need" FF - they want FF for their own purposes, and there's nothing wrong with that at all.

I wonder if some of the FF owners are ending a little defensive about MF cameras.

It's certainly true that the the richest suite of features are found in top of the range FF cameras and also APS - but so what?

What I like about Fuji cameras is their relative simplicity, and that they allow people to reconnect with what brought them into photography in the first place.

To mis-quote Marie Kondo, it's all about whatever sparks joy.

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Feb 20, 2022 18:13:08   #
Canisdirus
 
alexol wrote:
Competent photographers obtain some spectacular results from phone, bridge cameras, and APS sensors as well as FF.

Few people truly "need" FF - they want FF for their own purposes, and there's nothing wrong with that at all.

I wonder if some of the FF owners are ending a little defensive about MF cameras.

It's certainly true that the the richest suite of features are found in top of the range FF cameras and also APS - but so what?

What I like about Fuji cameras is their relative simplicity, and that they allow people to reconnect with what brought them into photography in the first place.

To mis-quote Marie Kondo, it's all about whatever sparks joy.
Competent photographers obtain some spectacular re... (show quote)



No doubt. But they have to work harder than FF.
No doubt it can be done.

FF is the most balanced...
It's also where the lion share of tech research coin is spent...the market has spoken already...years ago.

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Feb 20, 2022 18:49:14   #
AnotherBob
 
rmalarz wrote:
Just started. Hassleblad 907x on a 500C. I haven't done anything but tests and profiles so far.
--Bob


I look forward to hearing about your progress.

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Feb 20, 2022 18:50:32   #
AnotherBob
 
alexol wrote:


To mis-quote Marie Kondo, it's all about whatever sparks joy.



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Feb 20, 2022 19:52:23   #
rbhallock Loc: Western Massachusetts
 
Vincejr wrote:
Does anybody use medium format digital camera and make do you use.


Yes. Mamiya 7. Great film camera. 80 mm standard lens, also 150 mm.

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Feb 21, 2022 01:08:20   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Which is currently the largest medium format sensor?


Dimensionally, the largest sensor is in the Hasselblad X1D II 50C. It measures 43.8 x 32.9mm and is 50MP.

In terms of resolution, the largest MF sensor is 102MP, as found in the Fuji GFX 100 and GFX 100S.

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Feb 21, 2022 01:19:50   #
Photonerd5
 
Sorry to be disagreeable amfoto1, but Phase1 now offers two cameras with 151 megapixels.

Unfortunately, they cost as much as a luxury car, so you probably thought they weren't worth mentioning.

Cheers.

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Feb 21, 2022 11:32:35   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
bweber wrote:
Most of the replies to this post were from people who do not use medium format cameras. They are simply presenting their reasons for avoiding medium format. I owned a Pentax 6x7 film camera and loved it. I purchased a Canon 5DSR when it first came out as it gave me images close to the Pentax. I recently upgraded to a Fiji GFX 100S, and I love it. The camera and Fuji lenses I purchased were not cheap, however, the images are spectacular. I shoot mostly landscapes with some portraits, I rarely shoot action. I generally do not print larger than 16 x 20. I did not move to medium format for large prints. I prefer it for two reasons. One is the ability seriously crop images that allows me to sometimes concentrate on specific parts of an image. In addition, and most important, the level of detail is wonderful and the subtle merging of different colors, as in a sunrise, are wonderful. The trade off in coast and weight is it worth to me.
Most of the replies to this post were from people ... (show quote)


I used medium format in film cameras and loved it. People always said 35mm is big enough. I disagreed then and I disagree now. If I could afford it, and some day I will, I will have a medium format digital system and never look back!
You're right, all the naysayers are speaking out of ignorance, not personal experience!

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Feb 21, 2022 11:40:45   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Everyday...ppl make choices without having first hand experience....folks can read...infer...solve problems...amazing.

Film...MF was great.
Digital...a white rhino.


Nonsense!

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Feb 21, 2022 11:50:09   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
alexol wrote:
Remembering from 645 & 6x6 film days, and from what I've seen & read of the 'big' Fujis, the difference is less about it sharpness ec and more about a sort of 3D effect present with the bigger sensors. The overall image quality is just beautiful.

I don't have the technical knowledge to explain it and it may only be my perception rather than something real. Nonetheless, I love the images from the 50 & 100 Fujis and am considering trading up.



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Feb 21, 2022 11:50:57   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
larryepage wrote:
In film days, I shot medium format in addition to 35mm. I loved the bigger negatives (both 4.5x6 and 6x6). They had almost a magical feeling when printing in the darkroom, whether black and white or color.

But the main difference was the difference in the shooting process. It was much slower and more deliberate. My cameras were all manual, although I did have a match-needle meter in the eye level prism of my 645. That difference would no longer be as evident today. Nor would the different attitude enforced by the relatively small number of exposures available on a roll of film.

The opportunity for using a sensor with many large elements still offers some potential benefit. But I'd think that developing better discipline and technique would trump using medium format simply to do deep crops.
In film days, I shot medium format in addition to ... (show quote)



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Feb 21, 2022 11:51:57   #
alexol
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Nonsense!




Evidently for some, digital FF is artistic & technical perfection and they have no other aspirations.

My Bronica lacked a great many of the so-called features and benefits of my 850, yet my Bronica images were superior.

Personally, I think it is because I enjoyed every moment of the experience of simply using the Bronica. The 850 on the other hand may be close to current technical perfection but gives me all the joy and emotional involvement of using my technically highly advanced washing machine.

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