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Feb 16, 2022 16:52:05   #
ArnieA Loc: BC,Canada
 
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How true.

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Feb 16, 2022 17:56:35   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Scotters59 wrote:
To some extent these things are true, but....
1. That older generation that did all that suffering invented much of that stuff including the plastic bags.
2. Much of that heroic older generation bought into and purchased and possessed those convenient things.
3. Some of those inventions the older generation went without saved us some. Dish washing in a machine is easier, and great for the lazy, but it uses a very considerable less hot water and does the job better that most of those heroic older generation dishwashers.
4. It was a small window of time when the older generation had to heroically suffer watching a handkerchief sized television that they invented and then worked on to make it bigger and bigger.
5. Those huge televisions also used a lot of voltage and have mostly been replaced by big screened televisions that are much more energy efficient on the positive side.
6. I don't believe for even a minute that there are that many homes that have a television in every room. Who these days can afford that many televisions.
7. Escalators and elevators were invented by people in that heroic self-scarifying older generation and demanded they be installed in the stores and buildings. That generation is just as prone to avoid shopping in a 10 story store if there is a similar store all on the same level with no stairs. But then again that youngster did not design 99% of that stuff meant for the lazy stair avoiding types.
8. I could go on and on.

To see the current generation as lazy is a big failure in your ability to see the whole truth, because you fail to see the advantages they have been taught to use by that heroic self-sacrificing older generation who walked 10 miles to school in 10 foot of snow up hill both ways.

This lazy generation buys bicycles, but does not take them to school because they don't want to lose them because the citizens of the past have failed to work hard enough on social issues to make the world safe to take your bike to school and still have it to ride home with.

The younger generation does not as a whole give condescending lectures to little old ladies for needing her groceries in plastic bags that her generation invented to replace those STILL USED and AVAILABLE paper bags.

To be honest, most of us oldsters simply appreciate all those things. Some may believe nostalgically those self-sacrificing efforts made us somehow some kind of heroically better. Most of us simply appreciate that those youngsters are around and see them working the best they can in a world they did not invent and hopefully will work at making the world better than what the older generation attained.
To some extent these things are true, but.... br 1... (show quote)


While what you say about the older generation bringing about much of what we consider conveniences today is correct, at least they were DOING, they invented, labored, and sacrificed in order to bring about a better world for themselves and future generations. By the same token, there can't be any dispute that there is more laziness, inattention to issues concerning everything from conservation to who run the country. There is just more apathy than existed fifty years ago. There is less patriotism, less God fearing, more pursuits of idle, meaningless, time wasting pleasures that hamper innovation. While there are plenty of caring, educated, informed, and energetic young people out there, I would dare say that percentage-wise our current generation of young people just do not stack up to the generations that fought in WWII and the ones immediately preceding and just after that conflict.

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Feb 16, 2022 18:51:49   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 


Don

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Feb 16, 2022 18:59:49   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
Bridges wrote:
While what you say about the older generation bringing about much of what we consider conveniences today is correct, at least they were DOING, they invented, labored, and sacrificed in order to bring about a better world for themselves and future generations. By the same token, there can't be any dispute that there is more laziness, inattention to issues concerning everything from conservation to who run the country. There is just more apathy than existed fifty years ago. There is less patriotism, less God fearing, more pursuits of idle, meaningless, time wasting pleasures that hamper innovation. While there are plenty of caring, educated, informed, and energetic young people out there, I would dare say that percentage-wise our current generation of young people just do not stack up to the generations that fought in WWII and the ones immediately preceding and just after that conflict.
While what you say about the older generation brin... (show quote)

My father was a WWII veteran, I’m a Vietnam veteran, and I couldn’t disagree with you more. Most views today are shaped by social media and what we watch on TV. It’s all about sensationalism to drive ratings higher. The young people I know are wonderful, creative, hard working people. To say that young people today don’t stack up to the generations that fought in WWII is pure nonsense. In times of crisis, people step up.
You need to do some volunteer work and get to know today’s young people instead of espousing how wonderful everyone was back in the Greatest Generation.
The Greatest Generation is today, on so many levels.

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Feb 16, 2022 20:03:23   #
JimBart Loc: Western Michigan
 
Totally agree with you Bridges. Today’s generation Frederick, say what you want, could NEVER endure the hardships of the previous generations without government assistance; neither would any of them sign up to defend this nation as the previous (WWll) one did. The kids of today only have one thing in mind…. What’s in it for me!

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Feb 16, 2022 20:10:55   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Fredrick wrote:
My father was a WWII veteran, I’m a Vietnam veteran, and I couldn’t disagree with you more. Most views today are shaped by social media and what we watch on TV. It’s all about sensationalism to drive ratings higher. The young people I know are wonderful, creative, hard working people. To say that young people today don’t stack up to the generations that fought in WWII is pure nonsense. In times of crisis, people step up.
You need to do some volunteer work and get to know today’s young people instead of espousing how wonderful everyone was back in the Greatest Generation.
The Greatest Generation is today, on so many levels.
My father was a WWII veteran, I’m a Vietnam vetera... (show quote)


You are wrong on so many fronts. You say I should volunteer? What makes you think that should even be part of the equation when you know nothing of my life. I too am a Vietnam Veteran and have volunteered on quite a lot through the years. I have a partially crippled hand due to helping a church group rebuild a destitute family's home on an island off the coast of South Carolina, and having my hand crushed by a cement block. I spent two weeks in Puerto Rico helping to finish a church. When an organization asks me to do photography for an event I gladly do that at no cost. You must not have been paying attention when I acknowledged there are a lot of really good young people out there and you must have been absent when in the late 60's and 70's a large portion of the youth in America turned off and dropped out. The repercussions of that era are still being felt today. You seem to get your perspective from volunteering alongside some young people -- I applaud you for that but the ones you are basing your statements on are the ones I also praised. I worked in management rolls in retail and wholesale distribution for over fifty years before retiring two years ago, and I know first hand -- not someone having to tell me what is and is not, that to a large extent (I didn't say the majority), of the youth today does not have the determination to succeed they did in years past. You should do a little less volunteering sometime and get a job in a McDonalds or Burger King. You will see what some of us have eluded to. Again, I'm not putting down kids that work at fast food places or in other entry level jobs but there is a percentage that will make you shake your head and wonder how they function in society. I believe our educational system is largely to blame for this and I totally agree with the person who posted that our school system is more about indoctrination and social engineering than about basic education. How else do you explain that nationally year after year math and reading skills go down. We are not near the top countries in education. We once led the world in technology but today Japan and France have 200 mph trains, we do not. The British have the largest passenger airliner today, we do not. Germany and Iceland lead the world in geo-thermal heating and reducing fossil fuel, we do not. The highways and bridges prior generations built are falling apart to the tune of needing a Trillion Dollars to repair because people in the last 30 years have not been paying attention! If after you see that I have vast first hand knowledge of what I have stated, then you just want to be disagreeable and we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Feb 16, 2022 21:20:32   #
peekaboo
 
Those were the good " OLD. " days

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Feb 16, 2022 22:56:33   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Bridges wrote:
You are wrong on so many fronts. You say I should volunteer? What makes you think that should even be part of the equation when you know nothing of my life. I too am a Vietnam Veteran and have volunteered on quite a lot through the years. I have a partially crippled hand due to helping a church group rebuild a destitute family's home on an island off the coast of South Carolina, and having my hand crushed by a cement block. I spent two weeks in Puerto Rico helping to finish a church. When an organization asks me to do photography for an event I gladly do that at no cost. You must not have been paying attention when I acknowledged there are a lot of really good young people out there and you must have been absent when in the late 60's and 70's a large portion of the youth in America turned off and dropped out. The repercussions of that era are still being felt today. You seem to get your perspective from volunteering alongside some young people -- I applaud you for that but the ones you are basing your statements on are the ones I also praised. I worked in management rolls in retail and wholesale distribution for over fifty years before retiring two years ago, and I know first hand -- not someone having to tell me what is and is not, that to a large extent (I didn't say the majority), of the youth today does not have the determination to succeed they did in years past. You should do a little less volunteering sometime and get a job in a McDonalds or Burger King. You will see what some of us have eluded to. Again, I'm not putting down kids that work at fast food places or in other entry level jobs but there is a percentage that will make you shake your head and wonder how they function in society. I believe our educational system is largely to blame for this and I totally agree with the person who posted that our school system is more about indoctrination and social engineering than about basic education. How else do you explain that nationally year after year math and reading skills go down. We are not near the top countries in education. We once led the world in technology but today Japan and France have 200 mph trains, we do not. The British have the largest passenger airliner today, we do not. Germany and Iceland lead the world in geo-thermal heating and reducing fossil fuel, we do not. The highways and bridges prior generations built are falling apart to the tune of needing a Trillion Dollars to repair because people in the last 30 years have not been paying attention! If after you see that I have vast first hand knowledge of what I have stated, then you just want to be disagreeable and we'll have to agree to disagree.
You are wrong on so many fronts. You say I should... (show quote)



You are absolutely correct!!! (And to a couple misguided souls here, San Francisco - and Silicon Valley, parts of Oregon and parts of Washington - and Washington DC, and parts of Southern California now are the absolute worst examples of that which the "woke" ideology inevitably leads to. Residents of those areas are moving out in droves.)

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Feb 16, 2022 23:04:11   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
rlv567 wrote:
You are absolutely correct!!! (And to a couple misguided souls here, San Francisco - and Silicon Valley, parts of Oregon and parts of Washington - and Washington DC, and parts of Southern California now are the absolute worst examples of that which the "woke" ideology inevitably leads to. Residents of those areas are moving out in droves.)

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City


For you. Bet he went to school in one of the places you named!



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Feb 17, 2022 00:38:19   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
Bridges wrote:
For you. Bet he went to school in one of the places you named!

What’s with the cheap shot, Mike? You and your buddy from the Philippines are hopeless.

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Feb 17, 2022 01:41:01   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Fredrick wrote:
What’s with the cheap shot, Mike? You and your buddy from the Philippines are hopeless.



"Former NYC" - no wonder!!! (It's also bad! in certain areas. And add in Chicago.)

Many years ago I lived in Oregon (when it was a good place), Santa Monica, Hollywood, Burbank, studied and worked at UCLA, Palm Springs, Phoenix, a client was Lockheed Missiles in Sunnyvale - Polaris missile, all before the "progressives" (who really aren't) began their incessant utilization of the Goebbels principle, coupled with unrelenting brute force violence against anyone who dares to say - or think - anything they don't like (even if 20 years ago!). I sincerely hope you someday will be able to see and understand things for what they really are!!!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Feb 17, 2022 07:52:10   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Fredrick wrote:
What’s with the cheap shot, Mike? You and your buddy from the Philippines are hopeless.


Same cheap shot as you assuming I did no volunteering! If we are hopeless, well, welcome to the club you are in it too.

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Feb 17, 2022 10:42:59   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
rlv567 wrote:
"Former NYC" - no wonder!!! (It's also bad! in certain areas. And add in Chicago.)

Many years ago I lived in Oregon (when it was a good place), Santa Monica, Hollywood, Burbank, studied and worked at UCLA, Palm Springs, Phoenix, a client was Lockheed Missiles in Sunnyvale - Polaris missile, all before the "progressives" (who really aren't) began their incessant utilization of the Goebbels principle, coupled with unrelenting brute force violence against anyone who dares to say - or think - anything they don't like (even if 20 years ago!). I sincerely hope you someday will be able to see and understand things for what they really are!!!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City
"Former NYC" - no wonder!!! (It's also ... (show quote)

Can’t respond now. Getting ready to go to work at McDonalds as you suggested to get a dose of reality about what the youths of today are really like.

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