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Feb 12, 2022 12:57:52   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
I totally agree with you.

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Feb 12, 2022 12:58:33   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
suntouched wrote:
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your camera equipment even if only for GAS! If you want it and you can afford it then go for it. You don't need anyone's permission here to do that. You don't need anyone here setting limits on what you buy or how often you buy or if you should buy. If you have a closet full of unused equipment that is your business.

Will it make you a better photographer? Maybe or maybe not. But it will be fun to find out. New equipment will often push you forward to becoming better by the technical advances. It may help you see improvement which may be the catalyst for more improvement.

Why is it there is honor in using outdated equipment? It is often said here that my (really old) equipment works just fine. Well that's fine for you but don't use it as a measure of why someone else should not buy new.

It use to be fun here seeing members say "The Brown Truck is coming and then it fell out of favor followed by other members denigrating the purchase of new equipment. (yes- I have been on this forum for a long time) Why- why taint new equipment purchase with underlying negative judgement? There are real advances in new cameras now that can achieve results that older cameras can't- ISO improvement, focus, reduced size and weight, focus stacking, interval and video results and many other advances.

So let's not treat our members as children but as thinking adults. We should be responding to the implied question of what did you gain by updating not should I update. And GAS is ok.
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your ca... (show quote)


I address your comment about, "...real advances in new cameras now that can achieve results that older cameras can't- ISO improvement, focus, reduced size and weight, focus stacking, interval and video results and many other advances." I have been reading some basic photography books published a few (5 or 6 maybe) years ago and in one the author was suggesting not to use ISO above 800. I have seen and heard of photographs being taken at ISO well above 3200 with little noise, thanks to AI noise reduction apps. The advances thus far in cameras and lenses has allowed digital photography to grow well beyond its initial concepts. IBIS and lens VR developments now allow for handheld photos at impressively longer shutter speeds, without use of a tripod. No one knows what or when the next step will be in advancing photography. Let the good times roll and buy what you want if and when you can afford it.

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Feb 12, 2022 14:10:59   #
Riverrune
 
I didn't realize that there was any "honor" in using outdated equipment. I started in photography with an old Leica that my Dad gave me. He'd bought it in 1949. I've long since passed that to the personal museum...

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Feb 12, 2022 14:14:57   #
srg
 
suntouched wrote:
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your camera equipment even if only for GAS! If you want it and you can afford it then go for it. You don't need anyone's permission here to do that. You don't need anyone here setting limits on what you buy or how often you buy or if you should buy. If you have a closet full of unused equipment that is your business.

Will it make you a better photographer? Maybe or maybe not. But it will be fun to find out. New equipment will often push you forward to becoming better by the technical advances. It may help you see improvement which may be the catalyst for more improvement.

Why is it there is honor in using outdated equipment? It is often said here that my (really old) equipment works just fine. Well that's fine for you but don't use it as a measure of why someone else should not buy new.

It use to be fun here seeing members say "The Brown Truck is coming and then it fell out of favor followed by other members denigrating the purchase of new equipment. (yes- I have been on this forum for a long time) Why- why taint new equipment purchase with underlying negative judgement? There are real advances in new cameras now that can achieve results that older cameras can't- ISO improvement, focus, reduced size and weight, focus stacking, interval and video results and many other advances.

So let's not treat our members as children but as thinking adults. We should be responding to the implied question of what did you gain by updating not should I update. And GAS is ok.
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your ca... (show quote)


Great comment. And yes, sometimes i get Gas.

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Feb 12, 2022 14:16:25   #
DJCard Loc: Northern Kentucky
 
JBRIII wrote:
First, agree, agree, agree.

Second, Like others, I am never going to shoot masterpieces, unless maybe astro or special stuff. But I take photos on trips and hate carrying lots of stuff. For most of my life, I rarely carried anything except for special events like shooting cave formations in low light using film. So carrying two cameras and lens got old real fast on plant tours, we climb up hill sides, etc. to often find the plants. So I got the Canon SX cameras for wide range, based on watching and talking with fellow travels. So for me, while masterpiecing would be nice, versalitity is tops.

Third, I think a lot of good photographers really know way more about cameras than I will ever know, so statements like you can do all that with manual settings, assuming you have the dexitery, knowledge, etc., on a 15 yr old camera while informative and interesting are not as important as how much of that can be done simplier on a new model, of course with $$$$$. For example, the latest review of tracking functiins on a Z9 were of real interest to me.

My point, some of us want/need to fill a need, which others can do already after years of experience, but we want it the easy way. That's my right, just it is anyone else's to try to find that exact wording needed in a small print, virtually unidexed manual, if there is one you don't have to print out first. I really enjoy all the info, but demeaning someone is just a trip by a fragile ego.
First, agree, agree, agree. br br Second, Like ot... (show quote)


I agree … Every human says and does things, buys or doesn’t buy new equipment, to fill a need or void, of which they may or may not have awareness. Whatever someone chooses to share on this forum is on them! How the reader/listener reacts to what is written is on them (the reader)!

I enjoy reading pros and cons of new and not-so-new equipment, but I enjoy much less comments with the intention of giving unhelpful criticism. I equally enjoy reading opinions on technique and creative ideas.

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Feb 12, 2022 14:25:21   #
goldenyears Loc: Lake Osewgo
 
JD750 wrote:
People enjoy photography for different reasons. Some like the art and others like the gear.


Amen! This thread, and your remark, has made me realize that I have a really, really long way to go just mastering the operation of my Canon Rebel T7 and the camera on my smartphone. So I doubt I will have a gas attack any time soon. Now, a large format printer? That might give me gas in the nearer future. I'll be sure to ask for advice here before getting out my credit card.

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Feb 12, 2022 14:32:58   #
oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon
 
suntouched wrote:
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your camera equipment even if only for GAS! If you want it and you can afford it then go for it. You don't need anyone's permission here to do that. You don't need anyone here setting limits on what you buy or how often you buy or if you should buy. If you have a closet full of unused equipment that is your business.

Will it make you a better photographer? Maybe or maybe not. But it will be fun to find out. New equipment will often push you forward to becoming better by the technical advances. It may help you see improvement which may be the catalyst for more improvement.

Why is it there is honor in using outdated equipment? It is often said here that my (really old) equipment works just fine. Well that's fine for you but don't use it as a measure of why someone else should not buy new.

It use to be fun here seeing members say "The Brown Truck is coming and then it fell out of favor followed by other members denigrating the purchase of new equipment. (yes- I have been on this forum for a long time) Why- why taint new equipment purchase with underlying negative judgement? There are real advances in new cameras now that can achieve results that older cameras can't- ISO improvement, focus, reduced size and weight, focus stacking, interval and video results and many other advances.

So let's not treat our members as children but as thinking adults. We should be responding to the implied question of what did you gain by updating not should I update. And GAS is ok.
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your ca... (show quote)

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Feb 12, 2022 14:41:30   #
Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA
 
suntouched wrote:
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your camera equipment even if only for GAS! If you want it and you can afford it then go for it. You don't need anyone's permission here to do that. You don't need anyone here setting limits on what you buy or how often you buy or if you should buy. If you have a closet full of unused equipment that is your business.

Will it make you a better photographer? Maybe or maybe not. But it will be fun to find out. New equipment will often push you forward to becoming better by the technical advances. It may help you see improvement which may be the catalyst for more improvement.

Why is it there is honor in using outdated equipment? It is often said here that my (really old) equipment works just fine. Well that's fine for you but don't use it as a measure of why someone else should not buy new.

It use to be fun here seeing members say "The Brown Truck is coming and then it fell out of favor followed by other members denigrating the purchase of new equipment. (yes- I have been on this forum for a long time) Why- why taint new equipment purchase with underlying negative judgement? There are real advances in new cameras now that can achieve results that older cameras can't- ISO improvement, focus, reduced size and weight, focus stacking, interval and video results and many other advances.

So let's not treat our members as children but as thinking adults. We should be responding to the implied question of what did you gain by updating not should I update. And GAS is ok.
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your ca... (show quote)



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Feb 12, 2022 14:52:20   #
Eric2018 Loc: Los Angeles, CA, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
. . . if you know in your heart you're not making a wise choice given your photography needs and personal financial situation, maybe that fear exhibits itself in needing to ask strangers on the internet what they think about the idea.

As usual, a very perceptive observation from CHG_CANON.
-- Eric

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Feb 12, 2022 14:52:31   #
oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon
 
Suntouched, I totally support your point of view. In addition to enjoying the acquisition of samples of nature’s beauty (photos), I also enjoy having, maintaining, and using my photo gear. If enjoyment was not a benefit of the whole process I would not do it. I also enjoy considering options for improving my gear. Why not? Life is too short as is. Frank

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Feb 12, 2022 15:21:00   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
All good points, but somehow showing off my new cow heart valve doesn’t carry the same wow factor as would a new camera.

But everything has a funny side. After I got out of surgery, my son said I looked like a naked mole rat with hoses hanging out. I had to look up that animal and it is UGLY!

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Feb 12, 2022 15:23:59   #
tgreenhaw
 
I'm tired of hearing that equipment doesn't matter. It does.

Taking sharp images of birds in flight requires either lots of luck or a really good autofocus system and heavy glass.

True depth of field control needs a large sensor and fast lenses - mobile phones can't do that. Pros need rugged equipment. Travelers need light and versatile equipment.

If the tools you have are not getting in the way of the shots you want, you are all set. If it's getting in the way, get a better tool. It's not about brand or the latest gadget, but sometimes technology advances get you what you need faster. If so use it.

Ansel Adams used view cameras for his landscapes for a reason. Cartier Bresson used Leica rangefinders for his street photos for a reason. Just get the tool you need and let your pictures do the talking.

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Feb 12, 2022 15:37:51   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
suntouched wrote:
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your camera equipment even if only for GAS! If you want it and you can afford it then go for it. You don't need anyone's permission here to do that. You don't need anyone here setting limits on what you buy or how often you buy or if you should buy. If you have a closet full of unused equipment that is your business.

Will it make you a better photographer? Maybe or maybe not. But it will be fun to find out. New equipment will often push you forward to becoming better by the technical advances. It may help you see improvement which may be the catalyst for more improvement.

Why is it there is honor in using outdated equipment? It is often said here that my (really old) equipment works just fine. Well that's fine for you but don't use it as a measure of why someone else should not buy new.

It use to be fun here seeing members say "The Brown Truck is coming and then it fell out of favor followed by other members denigrating the purchase of new equipment. (yes- I have been on this forum for a long time) Why- why taint new equipment purchase with underlying negative judgement? There are real advances in new cameras now that can achieve results that older cameras can't- ISO improvement, focus, reduced size and weight, focus stacking, interval and video results and many other advances.

So let's not treat our members as children but as thinking adults. We should be responding to the implied question of what did you gain by updating not should I update. And GAS is ok.
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your ca... (show quote)


This is likely to go to 15 pages . . . Someone hold my beer . . .

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Feb 12, 2022 16:27:44   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
.....Get the Camera you deserve Girl.....yeeehah !!!!


There's the camera I want, the camera I need, and the camera I deserve. They are all different cameras.

I want the camera I want, not the camera I need. And I certainly don't want the camera I deserve.

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Feb 12, 2022 16:27:58   #
jbhess
 
I purchased a new Olympus OM-D EM-1 and 3 PRO lenses a few years ago when it first came out. It doesn't do everything an EM-3 can, but I am still happy with it. I don't do everything of which it is capable, but it does all I need. I have had Nikon and Canon in the past. Olympus makes good cameras.

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