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Feb 11, 2022 10:33:51   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Champions keep buying equipment until they get it right.

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Feb 11, 2022 10:34:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I think some of those that diss someone that just purchased new stuff are just jealous or envious that they can't afford it or have another reason that they can't upgrade. It could also be that they don't want anyone to catch up to them. LOL



I'm not in a race.

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Feb 11, 2022 10:34:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Champions keep buying equipment until they get it right.


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Feb 11, 2022 10:35:12   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
I don't need anyone's permission or approval to buy a new camera or equipment. Not even my wife's.

will

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Feb 11, 2022 10:38:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
I don't need anyone's permission or approval to buy a new camera or equipment. Not even my wife's.

will


You wouldn't believe the hoops I have to go through to give myself permission...

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Feb 11, 2022 10:38:37   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
alexol wrote:
The simple fact is that roughly 98% of the members on here (bearing on mind that approximately 86.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot) don't take full advantage of, or cannot use, the full benefit of the cameras they have, should mean nothing whatever.

If you want another camera - or anything else - you need simply to answer a few basic questions:

- why do I want whatever it is? About the only unacceptable answer is that it is a cover, an excuse, hiding from some other deeper phycological darkness, filling a void.

- will I enjoy using it? What will be better? I know in my case, I will rarely take photos that will impress anyone, but I take great pleasure from taking photos using the cameras (plural) I have that are capable of making spectacular images.

- probably the most important one: will this purchase materially affect me or my family in a negative way? If I spend this money, who suffers?

Good answers = full speed ahead!

Let's face it, if only the absolute most competent were "allowed" to buy top class equipment, almost all manufacturers would be out of business. Manufacturing at scale requires appropriate sales volume to keep sales price acceptable.

Very, very few of us will suddenly produce masterpieces because we bought a new camera.
The simple fact is that roughly 98% of the members... (show quote)


Very few of us will produce masterpieces with or without new equipment but that isn't a reason not to upgrade if one can afford it and wants to. The only unacceptable answer on your list in my opinion is if buying new affects the family negatively. I think forum members want to hear about other's experiences about the equipment they are thinking of buying so that they can draw their own conclusions - if I ask that's what I want to know. Not the age old question of "what will this new equipment do that your (10 year old ) equipment doesn't do"

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Feb 11, 2022 10:41:26   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
suntouched wrote:
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your camera equipment even if only for GAS! If you want it and you can afford it then go for it. You don't need anyone's permission here to do that. You don't need anyone here setting limits on what you buy or how often you buy or if you should buy. If you have a closet full of unused equipment that is your business.

Will it make you a better photographer? Maybe or maybe not. But it will be fun to find out. New equipment will often push you forward to becoming better by the technical advances. It may help you see improvement which may be the catalyst for more improvement.

Why is it there is honor in using outdated equipment? It is often said here that my (really old) equipment works just fine. Well that's fine for you but don't use it as a measure of why someone else should not buy new.

It use to be fun here seeing members say "The Brown Truck is coming and then it fell out of favor followed by other members denigrating the purchase of new equipment. (yes- I have been on this forum for a long time) Why- why taint new equipment purchase with underlying negative judgement? There are real advances in new cameras now that can achieve results that older cameras can't- ISO improvement, focus, reduced size and weight, focus stacking, interval and video results and many other advances.

So let's not treat our members as children but as thinking adults. We should be responding to the implied question of what did you gain by updating not should I update. And GAS is ok.
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your ca... (show quote)


It's simple; if you want it just go get it. No permission required. After all, for most of us here, this is just a hobby and none of it is required other than for our own enjoyment.

If you ask the forum about their experience with a particular piece of gear then you'll likely get some good information to help with your decision.

However, if you ask the forum "if I should", then be prepared for the forums individualized opinions regarding why you 'should' or 'shouldn't'. And you must also remember that the forum doesn't know your want's, desires, needs or constraints. You'll only get opinions based on their perspective, not yours. For me, the only person qualified to help answer this question is my wife.

It's all about how you ask the question!

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Feb 11, 2022 10:42:45   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
suntouched wrote:
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your camera equipment even if only for GAS! If you want it and you can afford it then go for it. You don't need anyone's permission here to do that. You don't need anyone here setting limits on what you buy or how often you buy or if you should buy. If you have a closet full of unused equipment that is your business.

Will it make you a better photographer? Maybe or maybe not. But it will be fun to find out. New equipment will often push you forward to becoming better by the technical advances. It may help you see improvement which may be the catalyst for more improvement.

Why is it there is honor in using outdated equipment? It is often said here that my (really old) equipment works just fine. Well that's fine for you but don't use it as a measure of why someone else should not buy new.

It use to be fun here seeing members say "The Brown Truck is coming and then it fell out of favor followed by other members denigrating the purchase of new equipment. (yes- I have been on this forum for a long time) Why- why taint new equipment purchase with underlying negative judgement? There are real advances in new cameras now that can achieve results that older cameras can't- ISO improvement, focus, reduced size and weight, focus stacking, interval and video results and many other advances.

So let's not treat our members as children but as thinking adults. We should be responding to the implied question of what did you gain by updating not should I update. And GAS is ok.
Listen Up- there is NO Shame in upgrading your ca... (show quote)


You are absolutely correct. I had (and still have) a perfectly good low-count D810 when I bought my D850 without consulting anyone here. I also have and occasionally use a couple of D300 bodies as well.

Of course, the converse is also true. I have never found a bag or bottle of magic pixie dust packed with any camera I have ever bought. Some of them brought new capabilities that allowed me to do things not possible before, but not before I invested the time and energy to learn how to make them do it.

My latest acquisition is a relatively ancient D90. It has been converted to IR, and I'm having quite a bit of fun learning how to do competent IR photography. There are quite a few new things to learn, especially around achieving proper focus. I already know that if this becomes a serious pursuit for me, I'll be very interested in buying the fantasized Z8, or whatever pseudo affordable pro-interface model Nikon might eventually comes up with. It'll be immediately converted to IR when it arrives.

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Feb 11, 2022 10:44:43   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Some of us are just seeking a nudge when we seek opinions on “upgrading.” And like (mostly) everything else, we’ll pay attention to responses that agree with the answer we’ve already settled on. 🥴🤔😏

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Feb 11, 2022 10:46:44   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
I always find relieving myself of “GAS” makes me feel better.

Michael

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Feb 11, 2022 10:47:46   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When we read stories about successful photographers, have you noticed how often they begin with a new camera?

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Feb 11, 2022 10:52:26   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Champions keep buying equipment until they get it right.


That was my philosophy in a former “golf” life. Unfortunately, my game was one of the worst money could buy. GAS is the breakfast of true “champions,” or the result?

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Feb 11, 2022 10:54:30   #
alexol
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When we read stories about successful photographers, have you noticed how often they begin with a new camera?


Honestly, no, not ever.

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Feb 11, 2022 10:59:28   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Buy whatever you want and can afford. It's that simple.

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Feb 11, 2022 11:01:29   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You're right. If you can afford another $3000 camera when you already own a $3000 camera that isn't anywhere near 'old' nor 'outdated', there's no reason to ask strangers on the internet for permission to spend your money on unneeded items. Most $3000 cameras are designed to last 10+ years, if not forever.

But, if you know in your heart you're not making a wise choice given your photography needs and personal financial situation, maybe that fear exhibits itself in needing to ask strangers on the internet what they think about the idea. And some strangers might give a candid response to your question, helping you make your own 'right' decision. Others, of course, will happily spend your money as if their own, their 'right' decision that may / may not apply to you.
You're right. If you can afford another $3000 came... (show quote)


My point was that if you want new, buy new and if you want old then keep that. Not up to us to decide whether they "should" or "need" to buy new. The most helpful information given is through other's personal use of whatever equipment the poster is inquiring about. There will always be people on the forum that will not be able to make any decision no matter how much information they receive.

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