Mr.Ft Loc: Central New Jersey

Well I currently own a 5D Miv and an 80D along with L lens. Now I'm looking at the canon R5 or R6. With the budget I have I can Trade in the 5D Miv and get the R5 or keep the 5D Miv and get the R6 either will need the Rf to Ef adapter. Now if I go for the R5 will I need the 5D Miv? I mainly shoot Landscapes, Birds, birds in flight (Rarely), and some street photography.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Tom

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

What is driving the idea to change to mirrorless? You might consider this question in more detail before starting another GAS odyssey.

Once you've worked with a larger pixel resolution, you'll be disappointed with a substantial drop, a change that will occur from a 30MP 5DIV down to 20MP of an EOS R6.

With all the full-frame, high mega megapixel cameras, what is a cropped sensor still doing in the mix?

How many non IS-enabled lenses do you have? That would be a reason to consider the R5 / R6 options if not also planning to change to RF mount lenses.

The best way to leverage budget is to sell unneeded / underused equipment. Or, to forego unneeded changes altogether.

Mr.Ft Loc: Central New Jersey

The Eye and face tracking auto focus is one of the main reasons I'm looking to upgrade.

I mainly use the 80D when I take someone new to photography, who doesn't have a decent camera I setup the 80D and let them use it to get use to a DSLR camera.

All my L lens are IS.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Those would be good mirrorless-only additions. Also reasons to dump the legacy DSLRs.

DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina

I am a generalist, shoot anything. I have both and the only way I will give up my 5D/IV is if a 5D/V hits the mkt. And I am a big fan of the R5.

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

I've been wrestling with the same decision (partially gas driven) dilemma. I have a 5d4 and a 7d2. From a pure money perspective, I've decided to either sell both bodies I own and buy a R5, or keep the 5d4, sell the 7d2 and buy the R6, or stay where I am. I can get preferred Canon pricing through the Canon Loyalty Program or their employee pricing through the hospital where I volunteer. I shoot about anything that interests me including landscapes, BIF, stationery nature in general, etc. And.... I tend to heavy crop on occasional to get desired composition. My 7d2 has a 20meg sensor and some of those croppings show more noise than I like to see even if only posting on social media. Not to mention that the 7d2 is excellent for shooting "moving target" subjects and the 5d4 superb for landscapes. Also, another consideration is the accessories you've accumulated for your bodies. I mean things like L-brackets, remotes, any books, etc. They do mount up... As fired up as I was to have a R5 or R6 in my hands, both buy/sell scenarios would set me back about $1200-$1500. The longer this decision dilemma lingers, the more likely I will end up doing nothing in the short term, except, perhaps, selling the 7d2 and its 18-135 and its L-bracket and giving away a couple books. Good luck.

suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ

You will not be sorry if you can financially afford to change over and it sounds like you can. The eye and face tracking works very well. The R5/6 camera is lighter in weight and size than what you now own. The equipment you now have is excellent but the R5/6 is a game changer especially if you do birds or other active critters or sports. There is an adapter available to use your current lenses if that is what you want to do. The cost of the adapter will add about 100.00. I used the adapter for several months before acquiring R lenses. There was no loss of image quality. The R5 will require significant computer power to run the editing software that you will want if you don't already have it because of the large files that it generates. The R6 less so. So factor that in plus the camera/lens costs.

I personally don't think you need to justify upgrading your equipment to anyone except your spouse :) Will it make you a better photographer? Who knows- you won't know unless you upgrade and and try it for yourself. It certainly won't make you a worse one. The changes are significant.

suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ

The upgrade changes are significant although it sounds like the financials for you are more significant. It's difficult to sell older used equipment for anywhere near replacement costs of new. I had the Canon 90D and it was the worst camera I have ever had for moving/tracking subjects and the noise was significant above ISO 1600 and even worse on cropped, edited images. The move to the R6 resolved those issues. After a year I am still very happy with the R6. So there is a reason to upgrade other than Gas but in my opinion Gas is ok too. And you don't have to justify upgrading your equipment to anyone but yourself. There are no guarantees that your skills will improve with new equipment but then again your skills may be just fine either way. So don't let that line of thinking hinder your decision making. New equipment- new technical advances. Otherwise everyone would be staying with their initial digital cameras or film equipment. Good luck!

clickety

The answer to your very first question could simply be your many previous responses on the subject😳😊lol.

47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range

Ooops, I apologize if I left the impression that the financials are my most important consideration. I have two sell/purchase scenarios. I'm looking at Canon R5/R6 refurbished with the Canon Customer Loyalty Program (nets me 10% off the refurb price). The R5 out of pocket (OOP) would be about $1300 after the sale of my 5d4 and 7d2. The R6 OOP is about $1500 after selling the 7d2+lens and keeping the 5d4. For some, it may look like a no brainer... i.e. go with the R5 and spend the delta for memory cards, etc. I'm struggling a little on determining whether I "need" 45meg raw files vs 20 on the R6. Also, there's something to be said for the convenience of SD cards in the R6 since I don't shoot video. And... the OOP is contingent on me getting my asking price for my DSLRs. Yes, I've met the enemy and it is me.

tgreenhaw

I recently jumped to the R5. I am extremely happy. The problem it solved for me is sharp focus on wildlife, especially birds in flight. I strongly recommend you consider the R5 instead of the R6. For the types of photos you make, the extra resolution will be IMHO important as it will allow you plenty of crop for your bird pics. It's also *much* lighter than my 5Ds.

Be sure to update the firmware and then do a camera reset in the settings section when you get the camera. The firmware resolves some overheating issues and the reset fixed an E70 error I was getting when using high speed drive mode.

If you buy the EF adaptor separately to use your EF lenses, I like the Control Ring Adaptor. I set it to adjust EV and it really helps on backlit or very bright subjects. If you have EFS lenses, they work too and yield a 17 megapixel image and fine for video.

The R5 has an SD slot as well as a CF slot. You don't need the CF slot unless you are shooting a lot of exotic 8K video or are taking a vast amount of 20fps shots in a row. I don't use it and I think its a specification checkbox you don't need. I think pros who need 8K are better off with professional video gear. You may find yourself shooting more video with mirrorless as you can shoot while viewing through the viewfinder. I have shot hours of 4K 60fps video in direct sunlight and I saw no overheating issues at all.

You may want to consider the RF 16mm f2.8 lens. For $300 its a steal and super light. It's not IS, but with R5 IBIS you don't need it. Also consider the RF 24-240mm. It's about $800 and a perfect walkabout lens. Neither of these are L glass, but the IQ is very good and really the only thing you are giving up is weather sealing and they are very light.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

If you get the R5 the 5D MIV becomes irrelevant.
Sell it.

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

Exactly!
There is nothing about my 5DIV (long since sold) that I miss in comparison to my R5.

BarbB

I was in you exact position this past summer. I sold my 7D2 and kept 5Dm4. I bought the R6 and am very happy. I was concerned about time and space for downloading hundreds ( thousands, if traveling) images with huge file sizes (R5)…, and am not interested in video recording. That is why I went with the R6.. I am very pleased. I kept the 5dm4 as back up for when I want 2 bodies with lenses.. but I am considering selling that for a second canon mirrorless

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Do not dwell on the cameras of the past. Rather, concentrate your entire mind on the present moment and the need to buy a mirrorless camera.