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Feb 1, 2022 10:55:02   #
bodiebill
 
Longshadow wrote:
What if you're not wearing a jacket?
Most of the time I only carry my camera, unless there is a specific thing I'm intending to accomplish.


only a non-Irishman would miss this one!
"FLASK" not Flash

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Feb 1, 2022 11:10:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bodiebill wrote:
only a non-Irishman would miss this one!
"FLASK" not Flash


My "mind's" auto-corrupt?

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Feb 1, 2022 11:11:45   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
I use it to trip my remote flashes. I would miss it if it were not there.
…Cam.

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Feb 1, 2022 11:18:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
avflinsch wrote:
I tend to keep my flask in my jacket pocket..



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Feb 1, 2022 11:19:36   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Quixdraw wrote:
Have both types and don't use flash a great deal. Having one built in is useful on occasion and facilitates shots that otherwise couldn't be gotten, or done as well. A convenience that takes up no useful space and adds little weight.


I was going to post the same thoughts, almost word for word but you beat me to it. I do occasionally use the built in flash on my camera for fill flash when the subject is in shade. Usually, not always it works fine.

Dennis

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Feb 1, 2022 11:20:43   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Bison Bud wrote:
Seems like new camera bodies with a built in flash are becoming a thing of the past, especially in the upper performance level bodies. While I realize that I can always add a hot shoe flash and the ability of a built in one is limited when compared to what can be done with the add on and/or use of slaves, I still think a built in flash is a nice feature to have available. Frankly, if I know I'm going to be doing flash photography, I will indeed use my speedlight setup, but I really don't carry it along regularly and the use of the built in flash has saved my butt a number of times. This is especially true when I simply need a fill flash to expose the subject rather than the background and I've even been rather successful using the built in flash for some low key photography of flowers, etc. Anyway, a built in flash is far from useless in my opinion and since the manufacturers seem to be moving away from them as an option, I was wondering how others out there might feel about them. Good luck and good shooting to all.
Seems like new camera bodies with a built in flash... (show quote)


I delayed buying a D500 for a long time because it did not have a built-in flash (and because it did not have a metal alloy body). That was an incredibly silly choice. I also initially bought a D810 instead of a D850 for the same two reasons.

Pop-up flashes are incredibly mediocre. The SB-400s I have bought instead are just as easy to carry and are far more useful. They also don't vignette on any significant lens that I use them with. My D200 (from 2007) and my D300 & D300s had pop-up flash that I used occasionally. I've never used the flash on my D810.

Eliminating the built-in flash gets rid of the actual flash body as well as a circuit board and a capacitor about the size of a AA or AAA battery insside the camera body. That's a lot of space for a lot more useful functionality. While I was formerly militantly the other way, I'm glad they're gone.

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Feb 1, 2022 11:20:55   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Longshadow wrote:
I like them. They do come in handy at times as you said.
I do have a shoe mount flask for dedicated flash work, or when I know I'll require it.
Now if the camera did not come with a hot shoe, I'd be upset.
Besides, all our old SLRs did not have a built-in flash. We used externals and survived.


Could you please send a photo of your shoe mount flask. If I was a drinker I would love that. Sorry my friend, I couldn't resist.

Dennis

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Feb 1, 2022 11:29:31   #
Abo
 
Shot with the built in flash on a Nikon D700:


(Download)

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Feb 1, 2022 11:47:47   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Could you please send a photo of your shoe mount flask. If I was a drinker I would love that. Sorry my friend, I couldn't resist.

Dennis



(It's proprietary! )

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Feb 1, 2022 11:48:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Abo wrote:
Shot with the built in flash on a Nikon D700:


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Feb 1, 2022 11:49:31   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Longshadow wrote:


(It's proprietary! )


Darn the bad luck. I thought so.

Have a great day. I congratulate you on the of the word, proprietary, in that sense.

Dennis

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Feb 1, 2022 11:51:31   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Rick from NY wrote:
Pretty sure camera manufacturers removed pop up flashes on their higher end models in order to improve weather sealing.


Weather sealing is an issue, but I read that the space is replaced by additional electronics needed for whatever the camera does.

I personally miss the built in flash when going from the Nikon D810 to the D850. It can do a fill function outdoors to eliminate facial shadows without having to attach an external flash.

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Feb 1, 2022 11:52:56   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
CamB wrote:
I use it to trip my remote flashes. I would miss it if it were not there.
…Cam.

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Feb 1, 2022 11:57:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Darn the bad luck. I thought so.

Have a great day. I congratulate you on the of the word, proprietary, in that sense.

Dennis


You also!

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Feb 1, 2022 12:00:55   #
Abo
 
Abo wrote:
Shot with the built in flash on a Nikon D700:


Also shot with the built in flash on a Nikon D700:


(Download)

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