WOW!
Pixel peepers gonna love that!
Architect1776 wrote:
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/motorola-to-break-megapixel-frontier-200mp-camera-and-new-snapdragon-chip
I'm a fan of high pixel counts in a camera, having a Nikon D810 (36 megapixels) and D850 (45 megapixels) I think that one reaches a point of diminishing returns somewhere in that range. I can barely discern differences in detail in identical photos taken with both cameras. If there is a reason for 200 megapixels, can someone enlighten me?
Urnst
Loc: Brownsville, Texas
therwol wrote:
I'm a fan of high pixel counts in a camera, having a Nikon D810 (36 megapixels) and D850 (45 megapixels) I think that one reaches a point of diminishing returns somewhere in that range. I can barely discern differences in detail in identical photos taken with both cameras. If there is a reason for 200 megapixels, can someone enlighten me?
To provide an excuse to update your computing power?
Urnst wrote:
To provide an excuse to update your computing power?
Most definitely for some.
therwol wrote:
I'm a fan of high pixel counts in a camera, having a Nikon D810 (36 megapixels) and D850 (45 megapixels) I think that one reaches a point of diminishing returns somewhere in that range. I can barely discern differences in detail in identical photos taken with both cameras. If there is a reason for 200 megapixels, can someone enlighten me?
Not sure, but would a higher pixel density in a small sensor require much smaller pixel size which would in turn have better image quality then a large sensor with larger pixel sizes?
Racmanaz wrote:
Not sure, but would a higher pixel density in a small sensor require much smaller pixel size which would in turn have better image quality then a large sensor with larger pixel sizes?
Actually, smaller pixels let in less light, and the conventional wisdom is that this adversely affects low light performance and results in greater noise. This may change soon. Cell phones are already using on board computing to compensate for these shortcomings. Canon and others are developing sensors that can respond to a single photon and essentially take pictures in what we would perceive to be total darkness. When this technology is fully developed, cameras may be very different from what we have now. Smaller sensors. Smaller bodies. Smaller lenses. Likely better performance too. But I still don't see a need for 200 megapixels in a phone.
kymarto
Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
therwol wrote:
I'm a fan of high pixel counts in a camera, having a Nikon D810 (36 megapixels) and D850 (45 megapixels) I think that one reaches a point of diminishing returns somewhere in that range. I can barely discern differences in detail in identical photos taken with both cameras. If there is a reason for 200 megapixels, can someone enlighten me?
To have powerful telephoto by cropping. No need for an optical telephoto lens.
Architect1776 wrote:
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/motorola-to-break-megapixel-frontier-200mp-camera-and-new-snapdragon-chip
The 200mp is actually because of composite images from the multiple smaller cameras on it.
This is not unusual for phones like that.
My phone has multiple cameras and combines for 64 mp and the image is no better than the individual 12 mp camera since the composite primarily just enlarges the image.
chikid68 wrote:
The 200mp is actually because of composite images from the multiple smaller cameras on it.
This is not unusual for phones like that.
My phone has multiple cameras and combines for 64 mp and the image is no better than the individual 12 mp camera since the composite primarily just enlarges the image.
Did you even try to read the article?
" flagship phone is tipped to feature a 200MP primary camera,"
SINGULAR is ONE Camera.
The others are different.
Architect1776 wrote:
Did you even try to read the article?
" flagship phone is tipped to feature a 200MP primary camera,"
SINGULAR is ONE Camera.
The others are different.
Yes I did however I am also aware of how the truth is frequently glossed over in press releases for upcoming devices.
The article did promt me to do a little more research and what I found out is that the 200mp is effective pixels of the single senor.
https://semiconductor.samsung.com/image-sensor/mobile-image-sensor/isocell-hp1/However this is through pixel binning which just takes the actual 50 mp image sensor and splits each pixel into four pixels which while technically gives 200 mp the pixels are much smaller.
In astro cameras there is a argument about pixel number versus size. Generally, the point is number of photons collectable for a given size pixel, so bigger = more and greater possible range. Also, stars can vary greatly in brightness, so with longer exposures either dim stars are not seen or bright ones bloom and can overflow to surrounding pixels. All that said, things change and now some top makers are going to pixel counts similar to non-astro cameras. Maybe due to better chip cooling, -40C/F, or increasing use of video and image stacking. Astro cameras are often monochrome so resolution is higher for same pixel count. Finally, cameras made for planetary photography generally have many fewer pixels than for deep sky objects, stars can be small and sharp versus planets large and subject to atmospheric blurr?
My point is that there can be technical arguments for more versus fewer pixels, etc.
I don't care why some company wants the biggest X, that's business, so arguments on that just waste time and energy. I am interested in knowing when device X has advantages, disadvantages, etc.
Just my opinion;
Architect1776 wrote:
Did you even try to read the article?
" flagship phone is tipped to feature a 200MP primary camera,"
SINGULAR is ONE Camera.
The others are different.
Let's assume this is true. How large will the files coming out of that camera be? My D850 produces 25 to 45 megabyte jpegs, depending on the amount of detail in the pictures. Those are already too large for email, and many people take photos with their phones and immediately email them from their phones to other people. Their phones will have to drastically resize them for the email.
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