Poor photos posted to Photo Gallery
Jan 29, 2022 08:43:07 #
John N wrote:
Not noticed it at all. But I do look in on the 'For your Consideration' forum - and post there.
I generally feel that the replies are useful, from names that are writ large among the UHH fraternity, but are very considered and not afraid to criticise.
It's not really meant for a 'family' shot with a wonky horizon, you can criticise that in the gallery, but if, as the name implies, you are looking for a somebody else's 'consideration' this is the place to go.
I generally feel that the replies are useful, from names that are writ large among the UHH fraternity, but are very considered and not afraid to criticise.
It's not really meant for a 'family' shot with a wonky horizon, you can criticise that in the gallery, but if, as the name implies, you are looking for a somebody else's 'consideration' this is the place to go.
I never thought "consider this" required a reply. Just something for someone to think about.
Jan 29, 2022 08:57:41 #
If you don’t know
How did you improve your life or your skill in any situation? By people blowing sunshine up your ego or from constructive criticism and failure. There are mainly two reasons for not telling someone the truth; you don’t want to tic them off (hurt feeling) or you don’t want to take the time to help. If fifty people are saying you did great how does the person that cares give constructive criticism?
I will never be a great photographer and it’s not important to me, what is important to me is to become the best I can. Without people telling me the truth constructively how will I achieve. Personally, thinking we should raise the bar of UHH by trying to help each other achieve their personal best.
If you tell me great photograph and someone else great photograph and one of them is out of focus, over processed etc.… how does that help either one of us.
Charles
How did you improve your life or your skill in any situation? By people blowing sunshine up your ego or from constructive criticism and failure. There are mainly two reasons for not telling someone the truth; you don’t want to tic them off (hurt feeling) or you don’t want to take the time to help. If fifty people are saying you did great how does the person that cares give constructive criticism?
I will never be a great photographer and it’s not important to me, what is important to me is to become the best I can. Without people telling me the truth constructively how will I achieve. Personally, thinking we should raise the bar of UHH by trying to help each other achieve their personal best.
If you tell me great photograph and someone else great photograph and one of them is out of focus, over processed etc.… how does that help either one of us.
Charles
Jan 29, 2022 09:07:03 #
I AGREE with you. I am a member of some photography clubs. Members post images on FaceBook and other members say "great shot" or something like that. And some of the members expressing this comment are really good photograpers. And how they see "said" image as great is beyond me. Being a nice guy all the time-especially when it comes to commenting on someones photography is not especially helpful. Be an AA when it comes to commenting on others' work.
Jan 29, 2022 09:17:02 #
I wonder what would happen if you posted a soft or subtle critique - such as "I like this image and would like to see it with the horizon straightened"?.... I usually just move on.
Jan 29, 2022 09:21:44 #
Several years ago I joined a camera club so I could learn how to take better pictures. After two years I dropped out because I never learned one thing. I found out that it all comes down to judgement. If you like what you are doing keep doing it. The club had a photo contest and the winner took a picture of a Deer that was out of focus. Crazy. If you don't have a good eye for a picture new equipment will not help.
Jan 29, 2022 09:33:18 #
tcthome
Loc: NJ
I'm guilty of the 
to photos that a magazine or someone wouldn't pay for. With that said unless they ask for critique, I'm not going to give it (I'm not sure I'm even qualified to). I believe some members here are just sharing what they have seen while out with their camera. Even the ones who know what they are doing & show some great landscape, street, wildlife &, portrait photos & appreciate them because there is a pretty good chance, I might never get to see any of these places. I know I will never see Africa unless I hit the lottery.
Happy shooting, Tom
to photos that a magazine or someone wouldn't pay for. With that said unless they ask for critique, I'm not going to give it (I'm not sure I'm even qualified to). I believe some members here are just sharing what they have seen while out with their camera. Even the ones who know what they are doing & show some great landscape, street, wildlife &, portrait photos & appreciate them because there is a pretty good chance, I might never get to see any of these places. I know I will never see Africa unless I hit the lottery.Happy shooting, Tom
Jan 29, 2022 09:36:50 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
Rick from NY wrote:
It is my understanding that replies to posts in th... (show quote)
I rarely post here. There are many reasons for that, but the main one is that the vast majority of my shots are not intended for anyone else to see. They are exercises or diagnostics or otherwise intended to help me learn something or improve something. Sometimes it's something visual, sometimes it has to do more with my shooting or finishing process. I'm confident in my own ability to work out process changes (at least most of the time), and I'm lucky to have several kind and knowledgeable people with whom I can sit and work through visual questions one on one without all of the noise and confusion that always arises here, sometimes long after a matter is settled (at least for the present).
As an example, just this week, I received a camera converted to IR. I've been considering this for a while and finally had the perfect opportunity to do so. So now im working to get the camera going and figure out the technical challenges of the process, along with what I can and can't do and how the camera (an unfamiliar model for me) works. As spring comes and the weather warms up, I'll learn what I can expect to capture. Then, I'll learn what I can do with it artistically. I prefer known, trusted help for that...not a bunch of folks spitting in the wind.
So I believe that mass critique is usually of limited value. I'm not shooting for others. If someone likes what I've done, that's just a bonus.
Jan 29, 2022 09:46:01 #
tcthome wrote:
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That is a good attitude.
The photo gallery rules say, " If you want to ask others to comment..."
One thing we used to see more of is people putting a request for comments, or permission to critique their work, listed in their signature line. Maybe there is a simple but obvious way to indicate the photographer welcomes critiques.
Seriously, people who want critiques should post in one of the critique sections. But that would be too much to ask for.
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Jan 29, 2022 10:07:37 #
This conversation is a “can of worms”. I agree there are an awful lot of “ata boys” that IMO are not warranted. But many folks are not interested in the “perfection” that some seek in their photography and not really interested in improving. So be it. Let-em be. If they want to improve, one of the best ways to do that is seek input on what others think of their image. I always ask for constructive comments. And if I an image I like, I’ll say so. If I don’t like it, I move on.
Jan 29, 2022 10:12:51 #
Nalu wrote:
This conversation is a “can of worms”. I agree there are an awful lot of “ata boys” that IMO are not warranted. But many folks are not interested in the “perfection” that some seek in their photography and not really interested in improving. So be it. Let-em be. If they want to improve, one of the best ways to do that is seek input on what others think of their image. I always ask for constructive comments. And if I an image I like, I’ll say so. If I don’t like it, I move on.
99.975% of the time I don't offer "improvement" suggestions.
I figure if they wanted suggestions, they would ask for them.
Jan 29, 2022 11:18:49 #
I just send a private message and offer helpful comments.
No one has refused.
I have gained some photo friends that way, with no hostilities.
No one has refused.
I have gained some photo friends that way, with no hostilities.
Jan 29, 2022 11:24:29 #
Paul Diamond
Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
Does anyone even read a reply this far back in UHH postings?
I do agree to a picture that evokes an emotion or helps recall a memory - some association. And, some pictures make you have a 'feeling' about a moment that was captured in the photo. Kudos if the photog. had the eye and the capacity to capture this moment in time. Next is the quality of the image - sharpness, contrast, level horizon, cropping, etc. Then we come to more careful analysis of the image. I have no problem with shadows that are black and the highest highlights fading to white. This is reality. Your eyes cannot see the range of tones in the highlights or shadows without the eyes adapting to the brightness or darkness when you look at the same kind of scene. Should you 'insist' that the camera/post processing of the image somehow be better than reality?????
I do agree to a picture that evokes an emotion or helps recall a memory - some association. And, some pictures make you have a 'feeling' about a moment that was captured in the photo. Kudos if the photog. had the eye and the capacity to capture this moment in time. Next is the quality of the image - sharpness, contrast, level horizon, cropping, etc. Then we come to more careful analysis of the image. I have no problem with shadows that are black and the highest highlights fading to white. This is reality. Your eyes cannot see the range of tones in the highlights or shadows without the eyes adapting to the brightness or darkness when you look at the same kind of scene. Should you 'insist' that the camera/post processing of the image somehow be better than reality?????
Jan 29, 2022 11:27:32 #
Paul Diamond wrote:
Does anyone even read a reply this far back in UHH postings?
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You kidding? Many don't even read the whole thread if it is only a page or two, they just reply.
Jan 29, 2022 11:31:40 #
Paul Diamond wrote:
Does anyone even read a reply this far back in UHH... (show quote)
Apparently we do.😁
Jan 29, 2022 11:33:17 #
If I were you, I'd not lose too much sleep over this situation. You likely can't do anything about it.
Consider that the picture-takers in question have evidently yet to realize that photography functions as a craft that may rise to art in the right hands. A craft typically requires years of practice to achieve passable results.
Minor White said, "It takes 10 years to learn photography." Not everybody desires to undergo this process. Their snapshots seem good enough to them.
Consider that the picture-takers in question have evidently yet to realize that photography functions as a craft that may rise to art in the right hands. A craft typically requires years of practice to achieve passable results.
Minor White said, "It takes 10 years to learn photography." Not everybody desires to undergo this process. Their snapshots seem good enough to them.
Rick from NY wrote:
It is my understanding that replies to posts in th... (show quote)
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