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Jan 26, 2022 20:03:02   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
stanikon wrote:
You don't need all those bodies and probably don't need all those lenses. Sell some of them, then you can give the firewood away for free to people who can't afford the alternatives. Of course, you will need to see a financial statement or tax return before you give it to them; otherwise you might be giving it to someone who can afford the alternatives but is just too cheap to pay for them. My neighbor spends all summer stockpiling firewood to heat his house over the winter. He has a nice, modern house with central propane heat but is just too cheap to pay for the butane. He would rather turn his time and sweat equity into heat than do something else with his time and pay for the propane. I would venture to say that much of your product goes to exactly those sorts of people except that they lack the resources to cut their own.

Two more points and then I am done with this:
- it's bout, not bought
- I don't care if you have 5 camera bodies or 500, it is irrelevant to this discussion, as is what you pay for them.
You don't need all those bodies and probably don't... (show quote)


Actually the word according to the dictionary is bought
Bought=purchase
Bout=boxing match
My needs and purchases are none of your concern and I do give away firewood if the family truly cannot afford it and needs it.
People in TN are known for helping neighbors in need.

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Jan 26, 2022 20:11:08   #
HOHIMER
 
Alafoto wrote:
Possibly the price increase is not due to the cost of preparing and delivering the wood, but more due to cost increases at the grocery store, etc. Everyone deserves to make a living off the fruits of his labor. If you don't want to pay the going price for firewood, and don't have electricity or natural gas to fall back on, get a propane heater and tank installed.


“Everyone deserves to make a living off the fruits of his labor.”
This would seem to be a very slippery slope without stipulating some very precise conditions.
Not every member of society is capable of producing the amount of intrinsic value through their labor that will translate into a ‘living wage’ in an open, free, market.

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Jan 26, 2022 21:14:13   #
DougS Loc: Central Arkansas
 
It is interesting to note the various means of selling firewood... and the laws that are supposed to regulate the selling. Back when there were news papers, here in Arkansas they could not list firewood by the 'rick'.
Interestingly, there are other states that have similar laws.
Of course, folks did it anyway, as it is common to refer to any 'stack' that was approximately 4' x 8', as a 'rick'. Particularly since most home heating firewood is not used at 24" lengths (most prefer approx. 16-18 "). I regularly see a 4' x 8' stack at $60, and up.
https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/business/2014/11/29/know-facts-buying-selling-firewood/19673477/
https://www.agriculture.arkansas.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Getting_What_You_Pay_For_When_Buying_Firewood2.pdf
https://www.farmprogress.com/story-know-regulations-selling-buying-firewood-9-103263

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Jan 26, 2022 21:56:40   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
chikid68 wrote:
Actually the word according to the dictionary is bought
Bought=purchase
Bout=boxing match
My needs and purchases are none of your concern and I do give away firewood if the family truly cannot afford it and needs it.
People in TN are known for helping neighbors in need.


Merriam-Webster: bout (noun): a short period of intense activity of a specified kind
..........................bought (verb): past tense of buy; obtained in exchange for payment

"GAS" is an activity of a specified kind. You don't buy GAS. GAS is a condition. I stand by my original correction.

I know your needs and purchases are none of my concern. YOU are the one who raised that issue. That's why I said what I did about not caring. Perhaps you could use a refresher in reading comprehension. This isn't the first time you have misread something.

People in TX have been known to help people in TN who were in need.

Adios, amigo. Have a nice life.

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Jan 27, 2022 07:56:32   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I tried that last year, but boy, did the neighbors get mad when they saw me cutting down their trees.

Many years ago, I bought a load of logs. I forget how many cords, but they were dumped on the front lawn, and I cut and split them into firewood. I did that for two years, but then those loads were no longer available.



We have in our area a salvage place where all of the refuge is recycled including old trees, limbs, leave, asphalt, cement, etc. And they make compost from the leaves, grass, and from the logs they are precut so all you have to do is mostly load them. 18 inches or so. Really nice. I used to go to the mountains to get the wood but have not for a few years. Most of this wood is also hardwood vs pine. Small city but really progressive. I bought a small electric chainsaw, a 20-volt Dewalt which does most jobs. Really nice. Starts every time.

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Jan 27, 2022 09:19:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
marine73 wrote:
My 1 1/2 cents. When we moved out of the apartment we were renting, we had a wood burning stove for heat. I only bought 1 cord of almond wood in the 3 years that we lived there, for the last year we burned oak scraps that I would get from a cabinet shop. Boy did that wood stove put out the heat and it would heat up a two story house. Most of the time we were not at home (work, school etc.) so the amount of heat required was minimal. My current home is single story with fire place which I have not built a fire in due to a band on wood fire burnings and can only burn on certain days which is usually a warm day and a fire is not needed. My primary heat is through my AC system. Winter time I turn it from AC to heat. It might use natural gas since I have gas for my tankless hot water heater and cooking stove.
My 1 1/2 cents. When we moved out of the apartmen... (show quote)


Oak is good. Ash is not.

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Jan 28, 2022 02:56:58   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Oak is good. Ash is not.


Please why you do not like Ash.

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Jan 28, 2022 09:27:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
paulrph1 wrote:
Please why you do not like Ash.


It burns hot and fast. I received a lot of ash in one of my deliveries, and I could pay someone to sit by the stove and keep feeding it.

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Jan 28, 2022 10:03:59   #
marine73 Loc: Modesto California
 
Oak also burns hot. The last year I burned wood I burned oak scraps from a cabinet shop. I came on this accidentally one day as I was driving to work. The cabinet shop had put a wooden box out by the side of the road filled with cutoffs of various lengths, needless to say it didn't take me long to get as much as I needed over the next couple of months, then all of a sudden they quit putting out the scraps, but by that time I didn't need it for firewood.

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Jan 28, 2022 10:52:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Yes, oak is great. A place near me has pallets available, so I think I'll get 'em when I can.

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Jan 28, 2022 19:45:41   #
fuminous Loc: Luling, LA... for now...
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, oak is great. A place near me has pallets available, so I think I'll get 'em when I can.


Yes, oak and hickory are excellent. What's not excellent is sweet gum... WAY!! too much trouble to split- swallows wedges like candy- and takes a year or more to dry out enough to burn... and doesn't burn well in my opinion... don't like sweet gum....

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Jan 28, 2022 22:24:53   #
DougS Loc: Central Arkansas
 
Just one bad side of hickory: it can shoot sparks like the 4th of July, if not properly dried, and probably even then!
Yea, sweet gum is awful to split, better to just burn whole (a year or two after cutting). Elm is not far behind gum to split.
Sweet Gum is great to grow Shiitake Mushrooms in!

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Jan 29, 2022 08:50:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
fuminous wrote:
Yes, oak and hickory are excellent. What's not excellent is sweet gum... WAY!! too much trouble to split- swallows wedges like candy- and takes a year or more to dry out enough to burn... and doesn't burn well in my opinion... don't like sweet gum....


Yep, there's lots of variation in wood.

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