3rd Party Battery
Jan 26, 2022 08:49:09 #
Manglesphoto wrote:
I purchased three third party batteries years ago with my D70,the only problem I've had with then was all three started not to accept a full charge in less than a year of purchase. In contrast the Nikon batteries are still in service.
My experience with a Nikon battery was just the opposite. My extensive experience with batteries in tools is most work great, occasionally you get a dud, and it matters not first, second or third parties. If you use enough batteries, you will almost certainly get a dud.
You do have to watch out for thieves selling used batteries as replacements. I think that happens a lot with cell phone batteries with unscrupulous internet sellers...
Having said that, I have on two occasions bought huge packs of those little button batteries for practically nothing off Amazon, and they were so cheap I thought for sure they would be defective, but no, they were and are great. I use them in some tools like a digital caliber and Wixy angle gauge, but my wife uses a ton of them at Christmas in candles and decorations.
Jan 26, 2022 08:51:52 #
I have used Wasabi in the past with success. My new D850 won't take them.
Jan 26, 2022 08:51:52 #
When Nikon originally came out with the batteries for the D500, one of the big issues I had with mine is how long (or lack of) the batteries would remain charged...I have to leave my cameras on stand by for up to 48 hours & several times the bateries would be too low to trigger the camera when needed. I spent about 45 days reviewing 3rd party batteries & settled on a small firm out of Ireland (Hahnel). I purchased 2 batteries & got a rapid charger thrown in with a graph showing the amount of charge on the battery when it starts. 2 years later I have yet to have an issue.They are available via B&H...Of course Nikon has since come out with 2 new Rev's on the battery. I believe it is now Rev C...only change is the mAh available
Jan 26, 2022 08:53:23 #
robertjerl wrote:
Sorry about that. I use Wasabi Power and have some several years old-no problems.
There are only a few companies in the world outside China that make battery cells and Wasabi used to advertise that they only used "Japanese made cells".
There are only a few companies in the world outside China that make battery cells and Wasabi used to advertise that they only used "Japanese made cells".
I have used Wasabi batteries for years without problems. I had some other generic batteries that worked OK but after a few years seemed not to charge all the way. The Canon batteries I have do seem to go on forever, but at 7x the cost, I am happier just replacing the Wasabi batteries when they seem to not charge as much.
Jan 26, 2022 08:58:51 #
kymarto wrote:
The thing, I think, with 3rd party batteries is that they are an unknown. Like all products from China, sometimes they are great and sometimes they are crap, and it is hard to know when you buy them which it will be.
The thing, I think, with 3rd party batteries is that they are an unknown. Like all products from China, sometimes they are great and sometimes they are crap, and it is hard to know when you buy them which it will be.
Yeah, but it's not just 3rd party batteries that are unknown. I have two 20 volt lithium batteries that came with a set of tools. One of the batteries failed in just over a year, and the other is still going strong after 10 years or so. I replaced the bad one with a 3rd party (still not cheap) and it also is still going strong. Batteries are always an unknown it seems.
Pay attention to the amp hour rating (mAh), that's a good indicator of battery staying power. The rest just keep your fingers crossedđź‘€
Jan 26, 2022 09:00:01 #
rmm0605 wrote:
I've had good luck with Watson batteries, sold by B&H.
B&H has a reputation to sell only good stuff. My overall own experience of B&H is extremely good.
Jan 26, 2022 09:19:51 #
dpullum wrote:
I have always used aftermarket batteries and have had no problems. Big difference in price compared to OEM, and who makes OEM, the lowest bidder? Perhaps zenagain's batteries were made by the company that makes batteries for GM's E-Car... the Bolt. 
Jan 26, 2022 09:23:25 #
I have varying experience of 3rd party batteries. My modern Li-Ion Canon batteries have been okay. However, I have found that the batteries for my Canon EOS-1D Mk II N have not lasted as long as the originals. Those old types of Canon professional cameras have a kind of cell configuration that is a nightmare for designers. They used *TEN* AA Ni-MH cells *in series*! They are almost doomed to a sudden death! If, or rather when, one cell goes slightly bad, the entire voltage balance in the pack is quickly corrupted and an avalanche destruction takes place. The same was valid for early multi-cell power tool battery packs.
I like the dinosaur 1D so I plan to make a pack with Li-Ion cells instead. Of course, it can NOT be charged with the original Ni-Mh charger. I have to build in a BMS in the pack or make the cells easily removable and charge them in the charger that often comes with them. Some battery cells have built-in BMS, but it is still not a walk in the park to charge them without the designated charger. In that case I have to design an own BMS and charger. Too much job.
Assume the following: The 1D runs on 12 V. However, it has to be capable to run on 12 V minus some voltage [when the cells get low charge] so I will try to see if it can run on 3x3.7 V = 11.1 V. Each Li-Ion cell has nominally 3.7 V except on full charge situation. They stay there pretty constantly. If I can squeeze them into an empty battery pack that easily can be opened I have reached the finish line.
I like the dinosaur 1D so I plan to make a pack with Li-Ion cells instead. Of course, it can NOT be charged with the original Ni-Mh charger. I have to build in a BMS in the pack or make the cells easily removable and charge them in the charger that often comes with them. Some battery cells have built-in BMS, but it is still not a walk in the park to charge them without the designated charger. In that case I have to design an own BMS and charger. Too much job.
Assume the following: The 1D runs on 12 V. However, it has to be capable to run on 12 V minus some voltage [when the cells get low charge] so I will try to see if it can run on 3x3.7 V = 11.1 V. Each Li-Ion cell has nominally 3.7 V except on full charge situation. They stay there pretty constantly. If I can squeeze them into an empty battery pack that easily can be opened I have reached the finish line.
Jan 26, 2022 10:12:56 #
zenagain wrote:
About 3 years ago I spoke to an employee of a loca... (show quote)
Wassabi batteries are good and they guarantee them three years. I've never had a problem with them.
I'm curious. Did you sure your battery in the camera.
Jan 26, 2022 10:30:07 #
cactuspic
Loc: Dallas, TX
With regard to the Canon R5 there are actually some comparative tests that have been performed.
Exhaustive Test Shows Battery Performance Differences in EOS R5
https://petapixel.com/2021/03/01/exhaustive-test-shows-battery-performance-differences-in-eos-r5/
One of the more curious findings is that all the that were batteries tested overstated their power, including Canon's. Second, there were differences that may come into play when you use certain power hungry functions, such as the frame per second rate of the mechanical shutter, but might not be noticed at all if the electronic shutter was used. Third, the Canon batteries had more power than the 3rd party batteries.
"“All NH batteries overstate their actual performance – even Canon’s,” Camnostic found. “The third-party versions all claim to have more juice than the Canon, and every one of them actually has less power. "
But as the article stated, you may not notice the difference depending on you usage. There article also did not explore the cost/performance comparison for each of the batteries
I could not find an equivalent article for Nikon or Sony
Irwin
Exhaustive Test Shows Battery Performance Differences in EOS R5
https://petapixel.com/2021/03/01/exhaustive-test-shows-battery-performance-differences-in-eos-r5/
One of the more curious findings is that all the that were batteries tested overstated their power, including Canon's. Second, there were differences that may come into play when you use certain power hungry functions, such as the frame per second rate of the mechanical shutter, but might not be noticed at all if the electronic shutter was used. Third, the Canon batteries had more power than the 3rd party batteries.
"“All NH batteries overstate their actual performance – even Canon’s,” Camnostic found. “The third-party versions all claim to have more juice than the Canon, and every one of them actually has less power. "
But as the article stated, you may not notice the difference depending on you usage. There article also did not explore the cost/performance comparison for each of the batteries
I could not find an equivalent article for Nikon or Sony
Irwin
Jan 26, 2022 11:29:53 #
Second Robertjerl's vote for Wasabi. Have used them for years, with no problems except they get lost sometimes, but I cannot really blame the batteries. The death battery is the copper top. They will leak in a heart beat.
Jan 26, 2022 12:29:08 #
PHRubin wrote:
Sorry to hear that experience. I have several 3rd party batteries and never had an issue. They are by Vivitar and C S Power.
Same with me.
I have some dating back to the 10D and no failures.
They seem to not hold a charge as well as the same age Canon.
But for all the years I have had these Radio Shack batteries there have been no problems.
Jan 26, 2022 13:32:11 #
DavidThompson wrote:
I was drawn to inexpensive (cheap) batteries (power tools & cameras) various times and invariably one of a pair fails. I’ve decided the hassle is not worth the savings. By the way, I have never had a name brand battery fail within 2 years of purchase.
And the only battery I’ve had fail was a branded battery. I think 3rd party are fine if you stick to the better known brands.
Jan 26, 2022 13:32:36 #
People can tout the benefit of 3rd party batteries, but you've seen the potential loss as a result of using them. My personal reluctance for purchasing 3rd party or purchasing brand batteries from questionable sources is simple. If something happens, the camera's manufacturer will be reluctant to repair or replace a camera ruined by a bad battery if it wasn't OEM. I don't want that headache.
--Bob
--Bob
zenagain wrote:
About 3 years ago I spoke to an employee of a loca... (show quote)
Jan 26, 2022 13:42:16 #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
And the only battery I’ve had fail was a branded battery. I think 3rd party are fine if you stick to the better known brands.
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