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Jan 22, 2022 13:28:01   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
KLambar wrote:
I have Lightroom 6 but what I found out is if you buy a Z camera it will not allow you to import photos until they are converted(I use Adobe DNG Converter).


If you used the Adobe CC apps, the raw conversion profiles for each new camera would be installed for you in the background as Adobe developers complete them. They seem to be one to three months behind new camera releases, most of the time. That's because they have to develop THEIR OWN conversion profiles. The camera manufacturers don't sell their own "secret sauces."

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Jan 22, 2022 13:29:22   #
KLambar Loc: New Jersey
 
Still have a film camera and use occasionally.

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Jan 22, 2022 13:36:03   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bsprague wrote:
It seems to me that if you have a new mirrorless camera and are skilled on Lightroom, it is short sighted to not take advantage of all that is included in the current Adobe system. $10 a month? Did you have a camera that consumed film? How much did that cost?




Anyone who has checked film prices lately will know that it's going to cost $12 per roll or so for color, and $8 per roll or so for B&W 35mm...

Of course, with digital there is a lot of expensive equipment to buy and use, but once you have it, there's no marginal cost.

Advantage: digital. I take the Photography Plan, and consider it a fair trade for what I get.

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Jan 22, 2022 14:35:07   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
bsprague wrote:
"I now realize the value of multiple catalogues."
That usually is a bad idea that leads to confusion. You remember an image and want it. Where do you look? The common exception is the wedding photographer that shoots a thousand plus and wants to keeps the Jones separate from the Smiths.

"Can an image be worked in each program?"
I does not seem to be accepted much on UHH, but Adobe delivers a system of linked parts on the $10/month plan. A photo can be "in" Lightroom CC, Lightroom Classic, Lightroom Mobile (phone), Lightroom Web, Photoshop and a private Portfolio. That photo is linked or "synced" so that an adjustment anywhere shows up everywhere.

For example.... You shoot a masterpiece on your DSLR. You are working it to perfection in Lightroom Classic and maybe Photoshop. Your granddaughter invites you to lunch and says, "What have you been doing lately Grandpa?". You whip out your phone and show her. She says it is too dark and needs some cropping. You adjust it on your phone, in the restaurant. By the time you get home to your desktop machine, the corrected image is there. It beats you home!

Or, you're with your buddies at the local pub discussing the last dirt bike adventure. Your iPad, Android tablet or laptop are in the car. The buddies need to see the pictures you've been developing on your desktop. You already put the good ones in a Classic collection. Lightroom CC "knows" that so you can whip out your "device" of choice and show them.

It works the other way too. You might be at Costco and see a DJI drone. Grab your phone, take a snapshot of the price and details of what is in the kit. When you get home, that snapshot is in Classic. You can compare the Costco package details with the Fly More Combo offered at B&H. You discover Costco is cheaper because it has two batteries instead of three! Then you can go back to Costco later in the day and get the better deal. (A friend told me that story!!!)

Lightroom 6.14 was fantastic for all that it did. The new Lightroom/Photoshop system is far ahead of it. There are new things in Classic, like masking. But the collection of the system parts go even well beyond that.
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You expanded on what i was saying earlier. Adobe Photoshop Lightroom is an eco system. Being a phenomenal photo editor is only one aspect of this massive software.

On the issue of catalogues, it is important to note that you can only have one catalogue synced to the online world of Lightroom. I keep my master catalog synced then merge other catalogs into it. Collection sets can be used for subsets of your catalog. It is through collections that you link to the rest of Lightroom, which is what you must be doing.

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Jan 25, 2022 07:22:55   #
A. T.
 
lreisner wrote:
There are basically two Lightrooms, one on line just called Lightroom and the other Lightroom Classic, both are $9.99 a month. The first is totally online product, which means you can edit your pictures anywhere that you have an internet connection and all your pictures are stored in the cloud. You get 1TB of storage and there is no access to Photoshop for the moment. The second option which is what most in this forum who use Lightroom have is Lightroom Classic subsriptions which include Lightroom online and on the desktop. This also has access to Photoshop. The other difference is that you only get 20GBs of storage online. You can upgrade to $19.99 a month for 1TB. LRC is far more powerful than LR Cloud and since you are already using Lightroom 6, the only learning curve is the new advancements that have been made to the software that you already have. So bottom line, I rcommend LRC for you.

There are a lot of other benefits if you decide to use the online version that comes with the LCR subscription. You can upload your pictures to the web via a catalogue in LRC to the web for viewing anywhere and you can share them as well. As long as the pictures remain on your hard drive, they do not count towards you 20GBs. You can also create a website for free. If you install the Lightroom Camera on your phone, you can set it up to down the load the pictures automatically to your computer hard drive, even if you use your native camera software. Once that is done you can delete them from online so they do not fill up your storage. Lightroom is a whole photography eco system.

You said that you only do light work in LR6. You may want to look into Photoshop Elements. I saw it on sale at B&H a day or two ago for a on time payment of $59.99. You could also do a trial run of LRC and see if you like it. If you are using the organizer, (catalogue) in LR6, taking the subscription would probably be your easiest move. The major change would be your access an expanded number of benefits by upgrading.
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Can you elaborate more on the free website? I am not a fan of Facebook and would love to be able to share my photo collection via a website.

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Jan 25, 2022 10:20:18   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
A. T. wrote:
Can you elaborate more on the free website? I am not a fan of Facebook and would love to be able to share my photo collection via a website.


Adobe calls it "Portfolio". It took me a couple hours to figure it out. It helped to watch Terry White's tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reb9cqBJrvA

If you want to see mine as an example: https://billsprague.myportfolio.com/

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Jan 25, 2022 21:13:16   #
A. T.
 
bsprague wrote:
Adobe calls it "Portfolio". It took me a couple hours to figure it out. It helped to watch Terry White's tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reb9cqBJrvA

If you want to see mine as an example: https://billsprague.myportfolio.com/


Okay, thanks so much.

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Jan 27, 2022 01:30:53   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
A. T. wrote:
Can you elaborate more on the free website? I am not a fan of Facebook and would love to be able to share my photo collection via a website.


If you have a subscription to Lightroom then download the LR for the web. That is your portal and go between for LRC and LR on the web. When you create a collection in Lightroom Classic, you will be asked if you want to share it. If you click yes it will sync to the web which you will be able to view in Lightroom on line. Once you have pictures up loaded to the web you can sign into lightroom anywhere on any device from a web browser. Simply go to Adobe.com and sign into your account. Then on the top right click on the 4 dots and choose LR. It will open up Lightroom in your browser which you can then view your uploaded pictures, perform edits or do other actions. From the desktop Lightroom you can share pictures via a link. You can share them to individuals or groups via emails, text or even share the link on Facebook. You can restrict who sees your pictures and even remove them from public view. People can comment on your pictures if you want as well.

On your phone you can also download the LR app which includes a camera and the ability to also edit your pictures, share them or even have any pictures that you take on your phone to automatically download to your computer. You can shoot in raw with the LR camera. Just remember that any pictures that you take on your phone will count against your 20gb storage space. Pictures that you up load from your computer will not be counted against your account.

There are plenty of tutorials that you can view from youtube and adobe to help you. You can download the Creative Cloud app to your desktop which will act as a hub for all of your Adobe Programs and to find help. It is also keep track of all updates and more.

Good luck to you. I hope that it is worth the effort to learn all of this and not as difficult as it may seem. Just do one step at a time.

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