srron wrote:
I know that Canada is racist, what I didn't know is that Canadians favor tyranny and draconian measures when it comes to Covid. Apparently more than one in four people support jail time for those who refuse the shot, makes me ashamed to be Canadian.
Don't agree with jail time but, from the same newspaper article:
"Sixty-one per cent of the respondents said it would be ok to make the unvaccinated pay “a monetary healthcare surcharge on their taxes of up to $150 per month.” That’s the same percentage that said it would be ok to make such individuals “pay out of pocket for the full medical cost” if they are admitted to hospital or the ICU with COVID-19.
“The sentiment out there is, if you’re going to clog up the healthcare system, then you’re going to pay for it yourself,” Wright said."
another article
"83 per cent of eligible Ontarians five and older and 89 per cent over 12 are fully vaccinated, while the unvaccinated make up eight-to-11 per cent of those populations. Just on that basis, the unvaccinated are about four times more likely to need intensive care when infected by COVID. But the ratio of vaccinated people versus unvaccinated climbs even higher with age, as does the percentage of individuals who get severely ill.
So the rate of unvaccinated people in ICUs in Ontario adjusted or “standardized” for age is 254 per million, compared to 22 fully vaccinated, according to the province’s science advisory table ."
srron wrote:
I know that Canada is racist, what I didn't know is that Canadians favor tyranny and draconian measures when it comes to Covid. Apparently more than one in four people support jail time for those who refuse the shot, makes me ashamed to be Canadian.
Please explain why you think Canada is racist.
TriX
Loc: Raleigh, NC
f8lee wrote:
I find it fascinating that nobody recognizes the distinct similaarity to what the Nazis did in the 30's - making the agbsurd claim that "jews are filthy and causing the population to get sick and need to be rounded up" - just replace "Jews" with "unvaccinated" and here we are.
Additionally, for those who are ignorant of a basic faact about this so-called "vaccination": - every other vaccine we have all taken over the decades has been composed of a crippled version of the original pathogen, from which the immune system 'learns' how to recognize the flu, or polio, or pertussis, or whatever. This jab is an mRNA based concoction - not a crippled version of the virus itself - and is described as a form of gene therapy by the doctor who invented the technology 20+ years ago. It neither prevents infection of the recipient or spread to others - witness the spikes in cases in states and countries that are highly 'vaccinated'.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-big-data-study-of-145-countries?r=oqsd&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web The heavily one sided propaganda surrounding the issue and perpetuation of "fear porn" makes for a society of too many people who become useful pawns of those who pres their emotional buttons. Ask yourselves, when medical professionals (including the one who invented the mRNA technology) are vilified and their lives are essentially ruined by coming out with statements that are contrary to the leftists' narrative, what is in it for them?
But, when one is ruled by emotion and cannot think rationally, one is more easily manipulated. I shake my head with pity when I see some poor sod driving solo with their windows up wearing the face diaper, and just accepting that at events like the Oscars the minions must wear their masks while the celebutards waltz around free and easy - because, you know, the virus knows not to infect them.
No doubt this post will raise the ire of the very people who comply out of fear - but perhaps it will cause some to actually investigate further.
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Did you actually read and understand the statistical analysis in the paper Steve referenced? And did you notice that neither have any medical credentials? ( “Kirsch has been both a philanthropic supporter of medical research, and a promoter of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines” per Wikipedia ) The premise is that countries that give more vaccines have more Covid deaths, and the conclusion is that the vaccine is causing the deaths. The more obvious explanation, that countries who have more Covid cases are more likely to vaccinate and that Covid is the cause of death isn’t considered.
That the overwhelming majority of physicians and medical researchers and major medical organizations disagree with this fringe element doesn’t seem to enter into the equation of those that want to believe Covid misinformation, which points to a larger problem. In today’s world, many people search out and gravitate to publications that support their preconceived notions and biases, rather than using neutral accredited sources or reading both sides of the issue. That tendency isn’t limited to Covid information/misinformation. It extends to every facet of our life, especially politics. In short, more and more, people hear what they want to hear that supports their preconceived view, and that is exactly what’s exhibited here.
Fotoartist wrote:
Please explain why you think Canada is racist.
Just thinking about it, we are being told we are a racist country by our president and half of the politicians.
TriX wrote:
Did you actually read and understand the statistical analysis in the paper Steve referenced? And did you notice that neither have any medical credentials? ( “Kirsch has been both a philanthropic supporter of medical research, and a promoter of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines” per Wikipedia ) The premise is that countries that give more vaccines have more Covid deaths, and the conclusion is that the vaccine is causing the deaths. The more obvious explanation, that countries who have more Covid cases are more likely to vaccinate and that Covid is the cause of death isn’t considered.
That the overwhelming majority of physicians and medical researchers and major medical organizations disagree with this fringe element doesn’t seem to enter into the equation of those that want to believe Covid misinformation, which points to a larger problem. In today’s world, many people search out and gravitate to publications that support their preconceived notions and biases, rather than using neutral accredited sources or reading both sides of the issue. That tendency isn’t limited to Covid information/misinformation. It extends to every facet of our life, especially politics. In short, more and more, people hear what they want to hear that supports their preconceived view, and that is exactly what’s exhibited here.
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Your bottom line says it all!
f8lee wrote:
I find it fascinating that nobody recognizes the distinct similaarity to what the Nazis did in the 30's - making the agbsurd claim that "jews are filthy and causing the population to get sick and need to be rounded up" - just replace "Jews" with "unvaccinated" and here we are.
Additionally, for those who are ignorant of a basic faact about this so-called "vaccination": - every other vaccine we have all taken over the decades has been composed of a crippled version of the original pathogen, from which the immune system 'learns' how to recognize the flu, or polio, or pertussis, or whatever. This jab is an mRNA based concoction - not a crippled version of the virus itself - and is described as a form of gene therapy by the doctor who invented the technology 20+ years ago. It neither prevents infection of the recipient or spread to others - witness the spikes in cases in states and countries that are highly 'vaccinated'.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-big-data-study-of-145-countries?r=oqsd&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web The heavily one sided propaganda surrounding the issue and perpetuation of "fear porn" makes for a society of too many people who become useful pawns of those who pres their emotional buttons. Ask yourselves, when medical professionals (including the one who invented the mRNA technology) are vilified and their lives are essentially ruined by coming out with statements that are contrary to the leftists' narrative, what is in it for them?
But, when one is ruled by emotion and cannot think rationally, one is more easily manipulated. I shake my head with pity when I see some poor sod driving solo with their windows up wearing the face diaper, and just accepting that at events like the Oscars the minions must wear their masks while the celebutards waltz around free and easy - because, you know, the virus knows not to infect them.
No doubt this post will raise the ire of the very people who comply out of fear - but perhaps it will cause some to actually investigate further.
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Hard to respond to this mish-mash of nonsense. And I probably shouldn't....
Let me just say that "ire" is not what this post raises in me. It's more like sadness that the search for truth and solutions to our problems is polluted with opinions like yours. And getting vaccinated "out of fear"??? It is the anti-vaxers that are motivated by fear! Most of us getting vaccinated do it because it's the smart thing to do....
ELNikkor wrote:
Aside from that, I never met a Canadian I didn't like; they are generally, very likeable, mild-mannered people.
Have you met Kracken, a Canadian who posts here?
Sirsnapalot wrote:
I’ve have had all three of the Covid shots, what I’m saying is that the mandate is ridiculous since it will not eliminate Covid, how does someone loosing there job protect you or me? It will only lead to crippling the economy!
Do you wish to have to work with someone who has covid?
AGO wrote:
I would not be in favor of jailing people who refuse to get vaccinated. But, let me throw out a hypothetical question. Let's say an individual tests positive for the virus but has only mild symptoms. That person, knowingly infected, then boards a plane. Several people catch the virus from that individual, and one dies. Should the individual be charged with manslaughter?
I don't know if is supported by laws, but I believe it should be.
thom w wrote:
Do you wish to have to work with someone who has covid?
No, but a completely vaccinated worker can attract and spread Covid as easily as a non vaccinated can ….. the vaccination is not a firewall to Covid!
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