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Jan 19, 2022 13:52:55   #
pego101
 
With Joy and Thanee



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Jan 20, 2022 06:09:54   #
Alb Loc: Lehigh Valley area, Pennsylvania
 
A back woman on a chain? Sorry, I find this extremely disturbing.

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Jan 20, 2022 07:06:20   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
pego101 wrote:
With Joy and Thanee


I personally find the whole bondage thing, so not my thing! But I respect others preferences.

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Jan 20, 2022 07:42:35   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Sorry, but these rather remind me of Timmers’ work.

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Jan 20, 2022 07:49:24   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Alb wrote:
A back woman on a chain? Sorry, I find this extremely disturbing.


If it had been reversed, would you feel the same? If white white or black black or foreman and line worker in industry would you be disturbed? Can we look at this as a lesbian couple playing parts ... perhaps it is just a posed photo and there is no real domination. Are we disturbed by a woman with her poodle on a leash or a man speaking harshly to his dog? [Dosen't work with cats!!]

Personally, I think it is a well-posed photo and do not interpret it as racist. The looks on the faces and the colors have a humor content the scolding "what am I to do with you" facial expression of the woman sitting and the innocent look to the viewer of the woman kneeling. Yes, I agree outright bondage is at times disturbing and confusing to our romantic roles of heroic knight and fair maiden. But, I have been with women who like to be forced/dominated by the male... relieve stress or guilt or it is exciting?? Check your area and you will find public Dungeons.

As suggested in this article women, female animals, play a game to get the male to chase and dominate.
"My colleague Esther Perel describes one of her Spanish-speaking clients playing a game she calls “Juego.” To play this game, the first thing is to make yourself a bit unattainable. If your partner responds by pursuing you, then you’ve won the game." The author left out and biting on the back of the neck while growling... give that a try with your lady love... it gives her chills and she will find it exciting.
https://www.sexualityresource.com/blog/womens-sexual-desire-and-why-men-often-dont-recognize-it

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Jan 20, 2022 08:47:48   #
Alb Loc: Lehigh Valley area, Pennsylvania
 
Yes, I find it disturbing for anyone to be on a chain.

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Jan 20, 2022 09:32:38   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
jaymatt wrote:
Sorry, but these rather remind me of Timmers’ work.


Exactly. Not a fan.

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Jan 20, 2022 11:04:29   #
Toby
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
Exactly. Not a fan.


Ditto

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Jan 20, 2022 11:20:53   #
pego101
 
I understand the objections to the theme and imagery. They are friends and they wanted to do this shoot so we did it but I am sorry if this offends anyone. If there was a way to delete this post I would.



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Jan 20, 2022 11:59:07   #
JimG1 Loc: Waxahachie, TX
 
I like both shots. The quality of both is excellent.

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Jan 20, 2022 12:27:35   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
Bondage isn't my thing either, but they are interesting /fun shots, and to suggest they are "rasist" didn't even cross my mind until it was mentioned! I think it's a little over sensitive to label it as such. Just see it for what it is, the chains etc, are simply props for a photographic shoot, if the models were white it would not have been mentioned, are you suggesting that because of the models skin color they are not allowed to participate? Surely if the models felt uncomfortable with these types of shots then they would have declined, and I'm sure that from everyones opinions, it would be the models ultimate decision as to whether they are offensive (or not).

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Jan 20, 2022 12:31:45   #
newsguygeorge Loc: Victoria, Texas
 
As an artist, I find the coverage of the nipples in this, and in others this OP has shared, troublesome. It's like your audience is a middle school class and it's not. It's other artists.

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Jan 20, 2022 14:28:33   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
pego101 wrote:
I understand the objections to the theme and imagery. They are friends and they wanted to do this shoot so we did it but I am sorry if this offends anyone. If there was a way to delete this post I would.


I am a little puzzled as to why you would apologize about the post and say you would delete it if you could... and then you add yet another photo. If you can edit the text (time limited) you can also edit the attached photo (i.e., delete it).

It sounds a bit like the silly letter circulated years ago that described a package contents. The sender had put a coat into the box along with a note INSIDE the box that said, "The buttons for the coat are in a pocket. I would have sewn them on but I had already sealed the box by the time I realized they were missing."

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Jan 20, 2022 14:56:37   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
I createda responding post rather than 'violate' the rule of abducting another persons thread.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-726228-1.html

Many of the issues that are being expressed can be found in the above post, and it is illustrated.

By the way, these images are not like my work, that is a typically wrong assumption.

Some of the feelings that are being expressed here are found in the ongoing rhetoric called 'decimation'. Often this is a way for the power elite to keep the old white supremacists garbage alive and useful.

If in your heart you are a bigot then change that, but if you begin to understand that this type of brain washing is a fantasy to keep you in line, then it is your duty to break free from this type of oppression.

This is much like people asking you if you believe in God? When you grasp that it is a fools around to respond to such questions, then you will begin to truly understand fait and it's deep meaning and that the question can have no answer nor validity.

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Jan 20, 2022 15:06:34   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
newsguygeorge wrote:
As an artist, I find the coverage of the nipples in this, and in others this OP has shared, troublesome. It's like your audience is a middle school class and it's not. It's other artists.


The black electrical tape on the nipples is part of fetish wear, and it does have a purpose. If you see a model for example, who has pressure clips on their nipples then know that there are two stages to this. one is the placing of the clamps, the second is at the moment of the removal. Not know to any except those in the kink world, their is a heighted release of shock like pain when the pressure is released. It is not the application of the clamps, rather it is the release of that pressure that is what is sought. In BDSM play, often it is left to the clamped submissive to remove the clamped pressure. It is the exploration of this 'pain' that is the most critical for the SM relationship.

The use of tape on the nipple is just a variation on the nipple clamp.

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