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Jan 11, 2022 05:59:24   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
sodapop wrote:
I am even waiting with bad breath, but that is another subject


It didn't do much for her teeth. LOL

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Jan 11, 2022 07:15:58   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
sodapop wrote:
Tell me how I can reshoot a photo that was taken in 1920?


This image was NOT taken in 1920. Her dress and style scream 1950's or later.
What joke are you playing at?

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Jan 11, 2022 07:43:32   #
MrPhotog
 
billnikon wrote:
This image was NOT taken in 1920. Her dress and style scream 1950's or later.
What joke are you playing at?


As I read it, I think the poster’s question should be taken generically.

While the particular example is obviously much more modern, the underlying problem is the same: Regardless of the actual date a picture was created, it is just as difficult to ‘refocus’ it after the fact.

There are plenty of much older images (done as tintypes) which are a bit fuzzy, and that gets exaggerated when they are copied and enlarged. Any software that can fix one should be able to fix more, as well.

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Jan 11, 2022 07:46:20   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
MrPhotog wrote:
As I read it, I think the poster’s question should be taken generically.

While the particular example is obviously much more modern, the underlying problem is the same: Regardless of the actual date a picture was created, it is just as difficult to ‘refocus’ it after the fact.

There are plenty of much older images (done as tintypes) which are a bit fuzzy, and that gets exaggerated when they are copied and enlarged. Any software that can fix one should be able to fix more, as well.
As I read it, I think the poster’s question should... (show quote)


Yes, that is true, put I have never seen a software package yet that can do it as well as the sample shown.

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Jan 11, 2022 08:13:19   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
An educated guess: I am 95% sure that the posted restoration was NOT done digitally but by handwork with airbrush application, dyes and paints. It is the old-school way of photo-restoration where the original is copied, a workprint is produced in a lower contrast, and the detail, damages, or our of focus images are addressed, added in and/or "sharpened" with an airbrush, dyes applied, with brushes or various opaque paints. The image is virtually repainted. The workprint is copied and prints ace can be made where the surface work does not show.

My guesses are based on the look of the contours of the face and the detail of the embroidery on the clothing. To me, it is very reminiscent of the airbrush and painted in look.

The other 5%? I am very familiar with the aforementioned method because this was routine back in the day. At my studio, our retoucher would do the work using the mentioned materials and methods.

There is a possibility that a similar effect can be done digitally as an offshoot of digital art whereby the original image is used as a basis and all the detail is restored by expert computerized manipulation.

Whatever the method was, it was very nicely applied and the effect is outstanding to compare it to the original. I don't know of any software that can do that automatically- if it exists, I want it! I am sure there is some kind of image-enhancing software that is used to sharpen aerial mapping images for military and cartographic use but I don't know of anything that can reconstruct a face without a skilled artist or operator at the controls. The image is sharpened and the LIKENESS of the subject is retained- that is not always an easy chore!
An educated guess: I am 95% sure that the posted... (show quote)


That was my first impression as well. But as you suspect, what I've seen from PixImperfect, there are tools that provide the digital more or less equivalent of a classic airbrush retoucher. There used to be a product called Focus Magic that could really enhance an image that was focus-soft/motion-blurred.

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Jan 11, 2022 08:26:02   #
MrPhotog
 
billnikon wrote:
Yes, that is true, put I have never seen a software package yet that can do it as well as the sample shown.


Maybe you haven’t seen the software, but I am sure you have seen the results from it.

About 1970 I read an article (probably in a photo magazine) about NASA’s use of a supercomputer (in those days, probably a Cray) to sharpen the images brought home from the moon landing. They did have a program, and it did work. But even with a supercomputer it took quite a while to correct a single image.

It is pretty well known that the camera taken to the moon was based on a Hasselblad with a 70 mm film back. Controls were modified so they could be worked by hands that were inside space-suit gloves. Focus, however, was not an option allowed to the astronaut. The cameras were fixed focus.

The moon is about as far from the sun as the Earth is, and with no lunar atmosphere there are never any clouds, so the ‘sunny 16’ rule applied to exposure, and a small aperture gave a lot of depth of field.

But the NASA computer, knowing the focal length of the lens and the aperture was able to determine the circles of confusion produced, and shrink them. Essentially, Reducing every halo to a dot, and producing a much sharper result. Effectively it gave you an in-focus image, where before there was a fuzzy one.

Those are fuzzy memories from 50 years ago. I was searching the web, looking for more details on NASA’s photo improvement software or computer programs, and came upon this software.

https://www.focusmagic.com/

The website looks impressive. And it looks like it might be able to accomplish the OPs goals.

But the internet is lubricated with snakeoil. If anyone wants to try this ( or has already tried it) I’m very interested in hearing their experiences.

About 1993 I toured the Air and Space Museum in DC and saw one of the NASA supercomputers from the era of the moon missions. I was struck by the fact that it had the same specs as the 486-66 desktop computer on my office desk. Remembering the story of the refocusing software, I wondered if someone might someday port that into a program for home computers.

Perhaps that is what was done with this. The company behind focusmagic says they work with NASA, so who knows.

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Jan 11, 2022 08:37:30   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
MrPhotog wrote:
As I read it, I think the poster’s question should be taken generically.

While the particular example is obviously much more modern, the underlying problem is the same: Regardless of the actual date a picture was created, it is just as difficult to ‘refocus’ it after the fact.

There are plenty of much older images (done as tintypes) which are a bit fuzzy, and that gets exaggerated when they are copied and enlarged. Any software that can fix one should be able to fix more, as well.
As I read it, I think the poster’s question should... (show quote)


Thank you, you are quite right. Obviously that photo I attached was not 1920. I also do many from that era as well

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Jan 11, 2022 09:04:26   #
dajanes4
 
I frequently use "High Pass" filter with difficult subjects. Filter>Other>High Pass and change blend mode to overlay or soft light

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Jan 11, 2022 09:22:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Either black magic or witchcraft, which are very similar, but slightly different.

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Jan 11, 2022 09:51:05   #
Edward Booth Loc: Riverview, Florida
 
In Photoshop under the Sharpen Filter, try "Shake Reduction"

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Jan 11, 2022 09:52:57   #
Edward Booth Loc: Riverview, Florida
 
In Photoshop, under the Filter, try Shake Reduction"

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Jan 11, 2022 10:13:00   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
After looking at the before and after, the process used appears to me to be that of Portrait Professional Studio v.22.

There are two fundamental formats in graphic images which are vector (which has coordinates that can be manipulated, such as technical drawings, and raster which cannot. Because an image produced by a camera, (which is actually a scanning device itself) is produced in a raster format, which is like being constructed of tiny grains of colored sand.

Imagine that we have before us such an image and it is blurred for it was produced out of focus...made of colored sand. Now we take a stick and we push grains around trying to improve it. We are talented enough to know how to infill areas between hues that may be missing to help sharpen. Although features get quite weird when we look at it on a grain by grain basis, it looks better to the common eye when viewed at a distance. Billboard Art is that way. If we looked at it while standing next to it, it would look very pixelated. However from hundreds of feet away it looks appealing. Graphic artists know that they do not need to create high-resolution art on huge images that will only be seen from a distance.

I've always told my understudies, "You can't make chicken soup out of chicken poop!" and the best efforts are always reduced to the lowest original features.

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Jan 11, 2022 10:27:58   #
Dug E Pi
 
IMO this may be a case of a trickster. Some nefarious folk will use a sharp picture then blur it up stating the before and after are reversed. They do this to get paid for restoring photos. Looking at the example you have used there are shadows on the teeth from where braces may have been. The before does not look like there is enough resolution to gather that. Just my thoughts.

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Jan 11, 2022 10:30:24   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
After looking at the before and after, the process used appears to me to be that of Portrait Professional Studio v.22.

There are two fundamental formats in graphic images which are vector (which has coordinates that can be manipulated, such as technical drawings, and raster which cannot. Because an image produced by a camera, (which is actually a scanning device itself) is produced in a raster format, which is like being constructed of tiny grains of colored sand.

Imagine that we have before us such an image and it is blurred for it was produced out of focus...made of colored sand. Now we take a stick and we push grains around trying to improve it. We are talented enough to know how to infill areas between hues that may be missing to help sharpen. Although features get quite weird when we look at it on a grain by grain basis, it looks better to the common eye when viewed at a distance. Billboard Art is that way. If we looked at it while standing next to it, it would look very pixelated. However from hundreds of feet away it looks appealing. Graphic artists know that they do not need to create high-resolution art on huge images that will only be seen from a distance.

I've always told my understudies, "You can't make chicken soup out of chicken poop!" and the best efforts are always reduced to the lowest original features.
After looking at the before and after, the process... (show quote)


Agreed, another likely candidate is Portrait Professional, although maybe not from the hands of a fully experienced user of this tool.

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Jan 11, 2022 10:44:04   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Bingo! A limit detective work paid off! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?

https://remini.ai/

A went to that Rimini Photo editor site on my Android phone and it was a test drive. I found one of my old intentionally soft-focus portraits and ran it through their basic free tryout. Attaced is the screenshots. Actually very impressive. This was a one-click job. Give it a try if you are interested. The free version is packed with ads so I suppose for a small fee you can subscribe to a Pro version. It seems that you can re-apply the sharpen tool for even sharper results.

It's a fun app that may prove to be a handy restoration tool.
Bingo! A limit detective work paid off! https://p... (show quote)


But, it appears to only apply to iOS on an iPhone not Windows on a PC.

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