Is mirrorless really better thand DSLR? (modern versions only) (Page 48): Nice, I see the hog hasn't changed, and the real befuddled- uneducated still yell the loudest. Your...

catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway

User ID wrote:

Thaz why I use my T/S lenses on a Sony ... cuz I’ve just never bought into myths about myths, as promulgated by typical sorryazzed “online experts” who believe that a sensor can be affected by the user interface. Maybe you’d attempt to explain how a sensor might be influenced by the presence, or absence, of a mirror and a prism ? Give it a try. I’m here mainly for the entertainment value anywho !

Nice, I see the hog hasn't changed, and the real befuddled- uneducated still yell the loudest.

Your "soyyazzed" reply is "typical" and "promulgated" as expected... lol

As for the 1DX MKIII:

Their are two focus indicator arrows that merge together in "live view" to attain focus. This is the same function as "auto-focus", but you turn the focus ring manually... and the arrows change color... the camera and lens are communicating.

The 1DX MK3 has the arrow function function plus a similar "beep and flash" of the focus point(s) in either live view or through the eye piece as do other dlsr's when manually focusing.

If you try to focus your lens with only your eye's hoping the live view screen or with the eye piece is perfect dead- nut-on, the focus can be in-accurate...

Why on earth would you think a sensor would have anything to do with focus?

I see where you may be "confused" and i'm sure you will have a scathing rebuttal...

I hope you have been properly entertained by an expert!

User ID

Hello catchlight. Is the hook tearing your lip a bit ?

Nice, I see the hog hasn't changed, and the real befuddled- uneducated still yell the loudest.

Your "soyyazzed" reply is "typical" and "promulgated" as expected... lol

As for the 1DX MKIII:

Their are two focus indicator arrows that merge together in "live view" to attain focus. This is the same function as "auto-focus", but you turn the focus ring manually... and the arrows change color... the camera and lens are communicating.

The 1DX MK3 has the arrow function function plus a similar "beep and flash" of the focus point(s) in either live view or through the eye piece as do other dlsr's when manually focusing.

If you try to focus your lens with only your eye's hoping the live view screen or with the eye piece is perfect dead- nut-on, the focus can be in-accurate...

Why on earth would you think a sensor would have anything to do with focus?

I see where you may be "confused" and i'm sure you will have a scathing rebuttal...

Go figger.

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

JohnR wrote:

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Yes, DSLR’s are better. They quickly become an extension of myself. Allowing me to focus on the image before me, not the mechanical device in my hand.

For others, the opposite may be true. The mirrorless body may be the way for them.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

catchlight.. wrote:

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The sensor has quite a bit to do with focus since the most important thing for focus is that it gets the image focused on the sensor. It doesn’t matter how sharp focus is in the viewfinder of a DSLR if the focus sensor is out of phase with the image sensor. With mirrorless since the focus is directly on the sensor itself that’s not a problem. But in the case of mirrorless the sensor has everything to do with focus.

catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway

SuperflyTNT wrote:

The sensor has quite a bit to do with focus since the most important thing for focus is that it gets the image focused on the sensor. It doesn’t matter how sharp focus is in the viewfinder of a DSLR if the focus sensor is out of phase with the image sensor. With mirrorless since the focus is directly on the sensor itself that’s not a problem. But in the case of mirrorless the sensor has everything to do with focus.

Which is better contrast or phase detection auto-focus?

Contrast detection is generally used in mirror-less cameras. Phase detection is used in digital DSLR cameras. ...if you're into wildlife or sports photography, or anything that uses the AF tracking and continuous focusing abilities of your camera, then phase detection AF works better than contrast....

The Canon EOS-1D X Mark III has a redesigned AF sensor incorporating a new square pixel design based on an image sensor, essentially making the AF sensor 28x higher resolution at the center area with phase-detection. The AF system supports face, head, and eye tracking. The DIGIC-X image processor and a DIGIC-8 dedicated for AF/AE the camera's image processing performance far exceeds and surpasses that of its predecessor.

When in Live View, AF/AE tracking during high-speed burst shooting has the ability to capture up to 20 fps. The main sensor, (like a mirror-less camera) uses contrast to achieve focus directly with the image sensor.

Using the traditional optical viewfinder, the camera has the ability to capture 16 fps with reduced time lag and image blackout. The EOS-1D X Mark III can shoot over 1000 images in a burst.

So there you have it, the 1DX MKIII uses both phase and contrast type auto-focus systems.

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catchlight.. wrote:

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Redyogi Loc: Chatsworth, GA

CHG_CANON wrote:

Imagine a silent world of mirrorless swans. The slap of a mirror will shortly be treated like lighting a cigarette indoors. You and your obnoxious loud camera will be asked to leave.

A mirror is just a reflection of the past!

reverendray

thanks for the links very informative

joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA

It sure was colorful ☀️💞☀️💞☀️

petrochemist Loc: UK

catchlight.. wrote:

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Phase detect AF is faster than contrast AF, but not quite so accurate.

For several years mirrorless cameras have had phase AF, using special pixels on the sensor. I believe this was introduced by Olympus well before the 1DXiii.
DSLRs generally use contrast AF when in live view.

Both mirrorless & DSLR designs have their advantages, I use both. For some subjects mirrorless is vastly better, with others my DSLRs have a slight advantage.

If for some weird reason I had to chose only one type & stick with that, I'd chose mirrorless - but probably for reasons that are irrelevant to most photographers! (I shoot adapted lenses a lot benefiting from short mount registration, and also shoot IR & low light where an EVF helps considerably)

charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.

CHG_CANON wrote:

Mirrorless cameras are a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. Images captured from behind a mirror are cold, heartless and uncaring.

Ghee Whizz.....

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

catchlight.. wrote:

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Most current mirrorless and all made by Sony, Canon and Nikon use a hybrid focus system. Rather than having a separate focus sensor like a DSLR there are focus sensors built into the image sensor. They use phase type for speed and some sort of contrast detect for accuracy. And it doesn’t matter whether you’re using the EVF or back monitor.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Any camera with a mirror in 2022 can't, by definition, be the best. It doesn't matter how many times you bring it up nor how much you paid.

John Gerlach Loc: Island Park, Idaho

My opinion on the mirrorless camera and the DSLR. I have earned a wonderful living as a professional nature photographer for over four decades using film cameras and then DSLRs. I tried the new Canon R5 a year ago and eventually bought all RF lenses for the mirrorless. As of today, I am now selling the following gear and it is all in excellent condition. Let me know if you are interested. I am checking what used gear should sell for now.

Canon 1DX Mark II
Canon 1DX Mark III
Canon 16-35mm f/2.8 L
Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 L II
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 L
Canon 70-200mm f/4 L
Canon 200-400mm with built-in 1.4x teleconverter

You can email me at johngerlachphotography@gmail.com