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Do EVF's Alter Your Perception Of The Scene You Are Composing?
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Jan 8, 2022 23:12:34   #
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srt101fan wrote:
George Bernard Shaw

With a nod to Gilbert and Sullivan

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Jan 8, 2022 23:21:04   #
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Longshadow wrote:
I never said I have a problem, I said I was confused.
You think I have a problem...

Ergo "I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you understand."- John Wayne

Perfectly okay that light rays get bent.

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Jan 8, 2022 23:25:37   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
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Perfectly okay that light rays get bent.

How? I fail to understand how light rays get bent more (or at all) in a DSLR camera.

I've yet to have anyone attempt to explain it.
Or did they simply read it on the internet.

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Jan 8, 2022 23:35:01   #
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CHG_CANON wrote:
The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.

So how long have you been having short term memory problems ?


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Jan 9, 2022 00:09:32   #
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CHG_CANON wrote:
Mirrorless is a way of life, seeing the world through new lenses and knowing that light reaches a sensor having never been reflected.


If light isn't reflected don't we call that a black hole?

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Jan 9, 2022 00:15:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
If light isn't reflected don't we call that a black hole?

I don't.
A black hole has a mass at the center where the gravity is so high that even light cannot escape the pull of gravity.

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Jan 9, 2022 01:36:13   #
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MDI Mainer wrote:
If light isn't reflected don't we call that a black hole?

No.

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Jan 9, 2022 01:51:55   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
If light isn't reflected don't we call that a black hole?


Is a black cloth a black hole?

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Jan 9, 2022 04:05:47   #
ScottWardwell Loc: Maine
 
JD750 wrote:
Is a black cloth a black hole?


No. A Black Hole is what you call a UHH thread that has been hijacked by the Usual Suspects.

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Jan 9, 2022 05:27:16   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
ScottWardwell wrote:
In my landscape photography, I use DSLRs with optical viewfinders. OFV's are as pure to WYSIWYG as you are going to get.
One of the pro's often cited about mirrorless are the use of Electronic View Finders and how they give the photographer a Heads-Up Display view of the exposure and all the data associated with it including a Histogram.
My question is about the image shown on the EVF. Is that a JPEG and is it altered by the in-camera settings? If you are shooting on a VIVID setting; are you seeing an enhanced vivid image in the EVF?
In full disclosure, I have never used a camera with an EVF except when using Live View on my DSLR.
In my landscape photography, I use DSLRs with opti... (show quote)


Actually EVFs are much more wysiwyg than OVFs. OVFs more accurately reflect what you see, but EVFs are exactly what you get, or at least what your basic image will be, before post processing. I much prefer a good EVF, as I can immediately see overexposed areas, for instance. Focus magnification has highly increased my focus accuracy with manual lenses. EVFs are also good in dark situations and accurately show noise. I would never go back to an OVF, not in a million years...

In answer to your specific question, I do believe that picture settings are reflected in the EVF view. That is certainly true for Sony's picture profiles at least.

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Jan 9, 2022 05:54:13   #
ScottWardwell Loc: Maine
 
kymarto wrote:
Actually EVFs are much more wysiwyg than OVFs. OVFs more accurately reflect what you see, but EVFs are exactly what you get.


Well, what you get with a EVF is a compressed processed image file in JPEG form. The OVF gives me the NEF version. Also my refresh rate is infinitely higher than what the EVF is capable of.

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Jan 9, 2022 06:01:37   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Live view on new Canon DSLRs uses the amazing DPAF so no loss in AF capabilities as other DSLRs do.
Same system as mirrorless cameras and it also uses it in video mode.
So not all DSLRs lose capabilities in live view except for the inability of using the viewfinder, which for me sucks.


I don't own one & am not sure about other brands but, I believe Nikon Mirrorless have a viewfinder mode button on the side of the EVF that you can set so when you're in live view & you put your eye up to the viewfinder, the EVF goes on & turns off when you pull away again. There are three settings. The one I mentioned above, off & I forget what the third one is. Probably on all the time.

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Jan 9, 2022 06:08:52   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
You never get what you see. What you get comes via a viewing system - screen or print - which will be different for countless reasons. Having said that - if you only shoot and view on a camera phone - then you do get what you see.

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Jan 9, 2022 07:37:30   #
mdoing
 
EVF's can be ugly compared to the optical DSLR viewfinder, but once you get to 3.69mill dots (Canon R6 for example) or more (R5), they look very close to "real life" in my opinion. Then the advantages outweigh the negatives. Being able to see the exposure change as you adjust exposure compensation is awesome. Don't fear EVF's just fear poor EVFs.

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Jan 9, 2022 07:48:51   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
mdoing wrote:
EVF's can be ugly compared to the optical DSLR viewfinder, but once you get to 3.69mill dots (Canon R6 for example) or more (R5), they look very close to "real life" in my opinion. Then the advantages outweigh the negatives. Being able to see the exposure change as you adjust exposure compensation is awesome. Don't fear EVF's just fear poor EVFs.


You are looking at the past - when SLRs were actually capturing only 90% of the OVF view! (Ignored by most OVF fans)

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