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ROTFLMFAO

Thanks much cuz I really needed that.

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Very funny question.

Simply replaced my Linhof with a Canon.
Really great improvement. Fairly common move, no secret. Surely somewhere some retro hobbyist loves that old Linhof.

OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919

So---Mountain Dave joins the ruckus. I said that mirrorless is capable of probably irreparable out of focus problems---and not just an autofocus failure---but deeper in the fact you do not look TTL! And you folks wish to twist the truth. Action optical TTL is the only "reliable" method--And if it is digital---it would seem that leaves only DSLRs as the truly reliable cameras. I gave an example. Might that not be your mirrorless on the blink after awhile? But hey---you can just buy whatever is in vogue following your current mirrorless whims?----ew

rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

Yeah, I feel the same way. But I guess some folks think they are missing out if they don't own the latest model or keeping up with the latest trend.

BebuLamar

There are many that like the DSLR's but not many that are buying them. Just like old school said there isn't need to buy new camera be it DSLR or mirrorless. The people that like mirrorless are not the same, they do have the need to have the latest. So it's the right thing not making DSLR any more.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The grass is always greener when captured with a mirrorless camera.

catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway

The Canon 1DX MK3 utilizes focus arrows that merge when using live screen with manual lenses. I use all three of the latest tilt shift lenses (50-90-135) because of the line resolve (more important than pixels for resolution), correction, and corner sharpness superiority.

In eye cup view, there is an audible beep and flashing focus point. Has all to do with the sensor and nothing to do with the mirror. So no, your mirror-less assumption is completely false. Then there is also "focus assistant" when using an external monitor.

A nice tip for manual focus: set a point of focus for the shot, then wait for the beep as the subject hits that point as you hold down the back button focus. It is more accurate and consistent than using the focus motor in an auto-focus lens to track a subject.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

That’s great if you want to use the back screen all the time. It doesn’t compare to focus peaking and magnification THROUGH THE VIEWFINDER.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Once you have glimpsed the fine details of the world through an Electronic View Finder zoomed to 10x, it becomes impossible to live anymore in a world limited by mirrors.

DVZ Loc: Littleton CO

Pretty sure there will be a R1 mirrorless to replace the 1D, which means the very good R3 is not the flagship camera. Could be Nikon will follow suit.

awesome14 Loc: UK

I say the big 2 are just hedging their bets! The dslrs have been around for a while, and like film, will come to an end one day. Sensor and display technology are such that mirrorless is not only possible but even better. You can't make the finder image brighter with a mirror. But mirrorless can. And that is one of the greatest pluses.

But Mirrorless gets the lens closer to the sensor, permitting much smaller lenses with larger max aperature, than dslr lenses. There just doesn't seem to be any drawback to mirrorless, except price. If you're not a pro, I say, "Just hang on to what you have until you need new gear."

I haven't gone mirrorless. But the writing is on the wall! I will shortly. I'm just waiting for the technology to settle in a bit, because I like to get 5+ years out of a new set of gear. I think the coming generation from Nikon, whom I deem to have better thought out the transition than Canon, will be fairly stable, and perhaps by then use of dslr lenses will produce acceptable results.

But the whole idea is not to use huge, clunky, slow dslr lenses. Well, I really like some of the glass I currently own. So, parting with it might leave nail marks on the barrels! I particularly like my 300 f4 PF ED, which is the best of all worlds on a D8xx body. I even shoot pretty good macro with it!

I think Nikon and Canon are both conscious of offending owners who bear an emotional attachment to their expensive gear, and may not like to hear just yet that it's obsolete. And, it's really 'not' for a few years yet. But mirrorless is a powerful platform ready to be supercharged with increased computing power available in todays microprocessors.

10 years hence we'll look back and wonder what the big deal was! B&W > Color > manual focus > autofocus > Film > Digital > Dslr > Mirrorless > telepathic control directly though a plug-in camera <> brain inteface that records exactly what the eye sees with whatever enhancements, zoom, etc. that the user can thinking of!

Ok, so there might be some steps between those last 2, but not as many as one might think!

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

I don’t need more material for my refutation but the fact that you seem to think providing me that info is material for refutation seems to indicate that your position can be easily refuted. The reason I asked the model is that different Sonys have different focusing systems. That being said, your position that the image was in focus in the viewfinder and not in the image file is just not possible. The viewfinder is getting its image straight off the sensor. If you’re getting blurry images and the viewfinder is sharp it’s not a focus issue. Possibly the IBIS is malfunctioning and it’s motion blur rather than a focus problem. Your assertion that only DSLR’s provide a TTL look at the scene is also false. The image from the sensor is a TTL image. Yes, my D500 has a nice bright pentaprism and it’s great, but there are many advantages to the electronic TTL image in my viewfinder. For one thing I can see scenes that are too dark to see clearly with my D500.

catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway

"Through the eyepiece" the 1DX MKIII will beep on any focus point that is locked and will illuminate when there is perfect focus. That's manual or auto.

If I were to need focus peaking I would use a monitor.

I can't imagine needing magnification through the eyepiece but Canon's angle viewfinder C works perfect for that task.

Sports is one thing, but if you have time the live view or a monitor gives you much more flexibility.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Focus confirmation is great for chipped lenses. I often use fully manual lenses that don’t have an electrical connection. I also don’t shoot sports much, but for most things I prefer using the viewfinder and don’t want to be fiddling around with a right angle finder. Now if I’m shooting on a tripod I might be more likely to use the monitor, but besides better manual focus support, another big benefit to using manual lenses on mirrorless is that I have IBIS which means I don’t need the tripod as often.

awesome14 Loc: UK

You can buy an adapter to use the old lenses. You don't have to upgrade. BUt the adapters are not ideal, and the new lenses have features not available in the old ones. The main thing is that you are able to purchase the new lenses. They're smaller, lighter, and faster than dslr lenses. \

It's like when VR came out in Nikon gear. If I purchased a new body, I didn't have to upgrade everything to VR.