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Dec 30, 2021 13:37:40   #
FrumCA
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Not "combined". Individually. (LA County has a population of 10 million; NJ, one of the blue states on that map has 9 million by itself)


Virginia is just under 9 million.

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Dec 30, 2021 14:56:26   #
Ballangrud Loc: Vermont
 
The photo marked number 1 is why we have the electoral college, it is intended to keep the highly concentrated centers of population from having too much say in how the other states are governed at the federal level.

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Dec 30, 2021 15:00:32   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 
Ballangrud wrote:
The photo marked number 1 is why we have the electoral college, it is intended to keep the highly concentrated centers of population from having too much say in how the other states are governed at the federal level.


and, conversely, allowing relatively small populations to have an outsized say in how large populations are governed.

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Dec 30, 2021 15:17:47   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Ballangrud wrote:
The photo marked number 1 is why we have the electoral college, it is intended to keep the highly concentrated centers of population from having too much say in how the other states are governed at the federal level.


No. We have an electoral college, because the founders believed, due to the lack of mass communication (and the very idea of such a thing inconceivable to them), the common people would be unable to know, and therefore unable to select, a national candidate.

As original spelled out in the Constitution, the average person would merely vote for
- his local representative to the state legislature,
- his local representative to the US House of Representatives,
- and perhaps the mayor and other leaders of his town.

In no case would he need to vote for someone he couldn't meet personally --- because, back then, that was the only way to know if you wanted to vote for someone. Remember, we didn't even have railroads yet --- information traveled by horse & buggy.

Then the state legislature would pick the Senators and the electoral -- again from people that they could know personally. And then the electors could familiarize themselves with the presidential candidates, and make their choice.

The founders had little concern about population centers vs rural areas. The country was agrarian with most people living on farms with just a few cities by sea ports-- with the only change that they foresaw was the population evening out as we moved west.

We should have done away with the electoral college and moved to direct election of the president back when we passed the 17th Amendment which allowed for direct election of senators.

Of course, changing it now would require a rather entitled minority to vote to give up the disproportionate power they have, so that will never happen.

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Dec 30, 2021 16:34:40   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Another great post, I too would like to know where you find these.


I saw them the other day on Fox News..

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Dec 30, 2021 16:37:07   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
phlash46 wrote:
and, conversely, allowing relatively small populations to have an outsized say in how large populations are governed.


This getting political; it's going to get dumped!

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Dec 30, 2021 16:39:33   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
LA County is that populated huh? Guess we know where all of the pollution comes from in the U.S., and they are the ones complaining all the time.

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Dec 30, 2021 17:48:33   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
America grows an equivalent of 2,000-lbs. of corn for every man, woman, and child in the nation. At first blush, one might think that it is because of animal feed however it is due to subsidies, and things always follow the money.

"Since the Great Depression, the federal government has played a role in aiding the nation’s farms through subsidies, including direct payments, crop insurance, and loans.

Government payments (excluding crop insurance payments) to farms have fluctuated since 1933, from a low of $1.5 billion in 1949 to $32.1 billion in 2000. In 1949, government payments made up 1.4% of total net farm income — a measure of profit — while in 2000 government payments made up 45.8% of such profits.

In 2019, farms received $22.6 billion in government payments, representing 20.4% of $111.1 billion in profits."


This is not to impune the need and importance of farming. What is strange though is that a large portion of our table fair is imported and a single box of "corn flakes" cost more than what a farmer gets for a bushel.

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Dec 30, 2021 19:21:30   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 
AirWalter wrote:
This getting political; it's going to get dumped!


See some of the other posts

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Dec 30, 2021 19:26:25   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
phlash46 wrote:
and, conversely, allowing relatively small populations to have an outsized say in how large populations are governed.


What I was thinking, too!

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Dec 30, 2021 20:00:58   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 
MadMikeOne wrote:
What I was thinking, too!



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Dec 30, 2021 22:32:32   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
AirWalter wrote:
This getting political; it's going to get dumped!


What?! Someone said, governed, and that makes it political? Me thinketh not...!

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Dec 31, 2021 01:09:18   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
Great post

Most maps have many areas out of proportion due to different projections.

PS Lets quit with the politics.

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Dec 31, 2021 10:15:50   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Thanks! Great maps.

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