FBF— am I the only one? (Page 6): Hi Wallen, Honestly, a lot needs to be covered and you need to see this in practice across multiple subjects. Long text explanations just don't work...

wide2tele Loc: Australia

Wallen wrote:

I'm curious. I find BFF to be very useful.
A different viewpoint would be very interesting.
Could you just list them down for us to read instead?

Hi Wallen,
Honestly, a lot needs to be covered and you need to see this in practice across multiple subjects. Long text explanations just don't work any longer in 2021. People don't have the patience.

If I interact on this forum, for any statement I make, I will likely need to type 10 times the amount of text later to defend my statement. lol

I'm just giving up from most posting and I'll put my points across in better ways.

I can assure you those AF-ON buttons were given a big push by Nikon in 1996 as a true pro feature for the first time. They were certainly tested, experimented with in real world situations and ultimately dumped by professional photographers. I think anyone here with any sense can see BBF suddenly just appeared by looking back at past autofocus related articles/threads as I have suggested. Surely without believing anything I say, a logical person will now question why BBF was not dominant till 2007-2008?

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

wide2tele wrote:

Hi Wallen, br Honestly, a lot needs to be covered ... (show quote)

I'm pretty logical but I do not question BBF as i find it very useful and fitting for my way of making photographs.
On the other hand, I am not against anybody else's way of doing things and I am actually intrigued and willing to learn if there is something I am not familiar with. If there is a better way of doing things, I really want to know.

wide2tele Loc: Australia

Wallen wrote:

I'm pretty logical but I do not question BBF as i find it very useful and fitting for my way of making photographs.
On the other hand, I am not against anybody else's way of doing things and I am actually intrigued and willing to learn if there is something I am not familiar with. If there is a better way of doing things, I really want to know.

I'll pass on the info when I have the time but I am not retired so time is still at a premium.

The same people who trash me for my BBF opinion also trash me for my mirrorless opinion. It's near impossible to convince anyone a mirrorless camera is anything other than brilliant and will give you the best opportunity to get the best image. I don't agree with this and could argue the logic all day long.

I know the mirrorless images I will see over the coming years will all show the downgrade in photographic image quality I'm expecting. Again, to explain myself would take a heck of a long reply and to express an opinion alone, if it doesn't trend with the masses, people will just slam you.

Consideration of an opinion and why a person may have formed this opinion is not given consideration in itself in modern times. People don't like to think but they do like to be hostile, ignorant and arrogant. I was brought up to learn, never discount anything until I, myself, could find the reason to discount it. I had good teachers.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

wide2tele wrote:

I'll pass on the info when I have the time but I a... (show quote)

You’re a joke. You come on here and slam people and then get all snowflaky when you get slammed back. You’ve never given any reason to consider your opinions because you never back them up.

Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC

SuperflyTNT wrote:

Wouldn’t it make more sense to use the joystick for single since that’s the mode you’re gonna need the most control of the focus point?

I keep the focus pt locked center. I tried using the joy stick to recompose but it's slower than realeasing the AEL.

Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC

wide2tele wrote:

I'll pass on the info when I have the time but I a... (show quote)

Opinions are lke belly buttons, everyone has one.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Bultaco wrote:

Opinions are lke belly buttons, everyone has one.

wide2tele Loc: Australia

SuperflyTNT wrote:

You’re a joke. You come on here and slam people and then get all snowflaky when you get slammed back. You’ve never given any reason to consider your opinions because you never back them up.

No, you're a joke. I don't slam anyone, that's what you do. I give an opinion that doesn't match yours and you sook like a little kid. You're the one who chases me around the forum, throws hostile posts in my direction. I haven't attacked anyone here. I've never accused anyone of BS even if I think they are posting total BS. It's their opinion, they can type what they like. The only time anyone gets anything back from me is when they start attacking me.

Unfortunately this forum does have the biggest reputation for deadbeats and it doesn't take long once you arrive to work out exactly who they are.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

wide2tele wrote:

Unfortunately this forum does have the biggest reputation for deadbeats and it doesn't take long once you arrive to work out exactly who they are.

As the saying sometimes goes, you resemble that remark ...

chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA

wide2tele wrote:

No, you're a joke. I don't slam anyone, that's wha... (show quote)

...where do you find this "reputation" info? Honest question...I kinda just stay here.

sscnxy

Rab-Eye wrote:

Correct, my friends, front button focus. I realized that the programable button on the front of my camera, what would’ve been the depth of field preview button back in the day, fell under my fingers just perfectly. I decided it made sense to program it to the thing I most use a button for: focusing. Therefore, I am an unabashed member of the front button focus shooters. Am I the only one in this club?

If you customize your camera to be able to focus with the front button also, would you be able to shutter release with the same front button? Or would you still have to trigger the shutter with the top button after you have focused with the front button?

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

sscnxy wrote:

If you customize your camera to be able to focus with the front button also, would you be able to shutter release with the same front button? Or would you still have to trigger the shutter with the top button after you have focused with the front button?

yes

neillaubenthal

kpmac wrote:

BBF is a must for wildlife action shots. I can't see how anyone can argue that point. Someone will, though.

Someone will *always* argue the point here as you well know.

neillaubenthal

CHG_CANON wrote:

As the saying sometimes goes, you resemble that remark ...

Pot…kettle…maybe?

The post about this being a mostly hostile forum is pretty much on the spot. So much so that I've eliminated most of the forum sections from view…much easier to not even see the rancor since that way I can't be baited into commenting on it.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

kpmac wrote:

BBF is a must for wildlife action shots. I can't see how anyone can argue that point. Someone will, though.

I will not argue your point. But I shoot, post, run wildlife seminars, have one man shows, sell books on wildlife, run tours and all I have only used is the button that DSLR's and Mirrorless camera manufacture recommend to use, the one on top right of the camera.
I say use what ever works for you. For me, it is using the front right top button.
The image below of a Roseate Spoonbill was taken with a Sony a9, with a 200-600 mm lens. I was in a group of about 7 photographers using Canon, Nikon, Sony, and a 4/3 camera I did not recognize, they all used back button focus and missed the shot when the Roseate took off right in front of us.
So again, use what works for you. But for me, using BBF for wildlife action shots is not a must.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.