billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Muddyvalley wrote:
On my D850, I use front button for spot focus & rear for group. I was disappointed that the Z7 & Z72 wouldn't permit that.
Interesting, you would think that the Z7, that shares a processing engine with the D850, would.
Rab-Eye wrote:
Correct, my friends, front button focus. I realized that the programable button on the front of my camera, what would’ve been the depth of field preview button back in the day, fell under my fingers just perfectly. I decided it made sense to program it to the thing I most use a button for: focusing. Therefore, I am an unabashed member of the front button focus shooters. Am I the only one in this club?
NO! I have mine set front button focus love it, works great!
User ID wrote:
Nope.
FBF and TBF as well.
No my PV button is programed to single point Auto focus as a stationary focus button. My joystick and other button on the back are for group and area auto focus. Lol. My PV button gets a workout. Lol
frankraney wrote:
When I hold my camera, my thumb is automatically on the ael button, so I set it for BBF. I am too shaky to use my first finger to hold the shutter down half way. I always press to hard and miss the shot way to much. BBF is so useful for other reasons. I can hold it down and be in continuous focus for BIF or action shots, or press once and release to focus and recompose.... With small hands, I can not reach the preview button at all, it's useless to me.
Wow that didn't come out right... Rather than retype I just changed it in the quote...
wide2tele wrote:
My evidence is in any piece of photographic history you can find. Go search BBF at dpreview or anywhere else. The site dates back maybe 20 years or more. See how many BBF threads can you find prior to the years I mentioned and how many after.
Read any focusing tips or articles prior to those years in magazines or whatever else and see how much mention there is of BBF.
There are two things in photography that are critical, that people have always struggled with, focus and exposure.
BBF is not great but it is easier for people to get results over really learning the skills of focusing. It was no different than manual focus days. You could achieve great results if you really knew how to follow focus. People didn't so avoided the technique and avoided stuff that moved until an autofocus system could do it for them.
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So you know nothing by experience. You just google stuff. Then, worse yet, you put your google findings into videos for other no-experience “researchers” to “learn” from.
Your intended videos are quite worthless except as a bit of light entertainment. By extension, all your online “contributions” tend to be dismissible. Acoarst that in no way sets you apart as inferior. It makes you actually very typically mainstream.
wide2tele wrote:
My evidence is in any piece of photographic history you can find. Go search BBF at dpreview or anywhere else. The site dates back maybe 20 years or more. See how many BBF threads can you find prior to the years I mentioned and how many after.
Read any focusing tips or articles prior to those years in magazines or whatever else and see how much mention there is of BBF.
There are two things in photography that are critical, that people have always struggled with, focus and exposure.
BBF is not great but it is easier for people to get results over really learning the skills of focusing. It was no different than manual focus days. You could achieve great results if you really knew how to follow focus. People didn't so avoided the technique and avoided stuff that moved until an autofocus system could do it for them.
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Wow, so you’re also unfamiliar with what constitutes evidence. Absence of data is not “evidence”. A fact, like the fact that Canon first added BBF to its cameras in 1989 at the request of professional photographers. It’s likely, (and I’m not gonna call this “evidence” because it’s conjecture), that the reason it wasn’t discussed as much earlier is that it was a “pro” feature and most photography forums are dominated by amateurs. It’s probably not until more amateurs became aware of BBF that it started showing up more often online. You talk big but in looking at the evidence your greatest accomplishment is putting glasses on a dog.
Bultaco wrote:
I shoot and wildlife with a D500 and BBF. The AEL set to single PF, the
joystick to Multi PF. If the suject isn't moving use AEL if it takes off
just switch to the joystick and shoot. It also makes recomposing must faster
fosus on subject release BBf recompose and fire away. try it you might
like it.
. I tried it and did not like it. To each his/her own.
ygelman
Loc: new -- North of Poughkeepsie!
Bultaco wrote:
I shoot and wildlife with a D500 and BBF. The AEL set to single PF, the
joystick to Multi PF. If the suject isn't moving use AEL if it takes off
just switch to the joystick and shoot. It also makes recomposing must faster
fosus on subject release BBf recompose and fire away. try it you might
like it.
Thank goodness for the invention of punctuation. I just wish it were used more often. It certainly would help when the reader is not familiar with the subject.
Bultaco wrote:
I shoot and wildlife with a D500 and BBF. The AEL set to single PF, the
joystick to Multi PF. If the suject isn't moving use AEL if it takes off
just switch to the joystick and shoot. It also makes recomposing must faster
fosus on subject release BBf recompose and fire away. try it you might
like it.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to use the joystick for single since that’s the mode you’re gonna need the most control of the focus point?
User ID wrote:
Yup. Thaz how I do Olympus.
Acoarst you’ll hafta first assign “AEL” to the button that will become your focus button. Olympus has a very weird, and sadly limiting, way of setting up “BBF”.
I knew there would be another! I like this since my finger doesn't have to hunt for that button and I don't have to take my attention off the subject. Works for me.
Rab-Eye wrote:
Correct, my friends, front button focus. I realized that the programable button on the front of my camera, what would’ve been the depth of field preview button back in the day, fell under my fingers just perfectly. I decided it made sense to program it to the thing I most use a button for: focusing. Therefore, I am an unabashed member of the front button focus shooters. Am I the only one in this club?
I use the half press of the shutter release essentially all of the time with no problems. I do occasionally press and hold the rear AF button as configured by the manufacturer on rare occasions. I miss the AE Lock button that disappeared when the D500 was introduced.
User ID wrote:
So you know nothing by experience. You just google stuff. Then, worse yet, you put your google findings into videos for other no-experience “researchers” to “learn” from.
Your intended videos are quite worthless except as a bit of light entertainment. By extension, all your online “contributions” tend to be dismissible. Acoarst that in no way sets you apart as inferior. It makes you actually very typically mainstream.
You know, the thread about what have you got from UHH was classic. You claim you have got absolutely nothing. I'd suggest after viewing some of your work maybe you should read a little more slowly just in a general sense.
What the heck is acoarst? I've seen people doing some weird stuff during my internet time but acoarst??? It's "of course."
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Wow, so you’re also unfamiliar with what constitutes evidence. Absence of data is not “evidence”. A fact, like the fact that Canon first added BBF to its cameras in 1989 at the request of professional photographers. It’s likely, (and I’m not gonna call this “evidence” because it’s conjecture), that the reason it wasn’t discussed as much earlier is that it was a “pro” feature and most photography forums are dominated by amateurs. It’s probably not until more amateurs became aware of BBF that it started showing up more often online. You talk big but in looking at the evidence your greatest accomplishment is putting glasses on a dog.
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You notice what camera Canon released this on? lol
You can be as ignorant and dismissive of my comments as you like. I think you will find any useful pro feature on a camera has always been immediately adopted by amateurs. I think you will also find pros have used the internet before 2007-2008 so BBF information would've been online.
1996 was the BBF turning point with the Nikon F5. Anyhow, you had to be there and be a pro to understand. I try to help teach people but it's not possible on this forum.
Please carry on. The posts are entertainment value if nothing else. You two experts quoted here are very much top of the pile for entertainment.
wide2tele wrote:
Anyhow, you had to be there and be a pro to understand. I try to help teach people but it's not possible on this forum.
This is rich! I can’t wait for your video.
wide2tele wrote:
In a couple of years I should have time on my hands to create a few videos. First one I intend to make is to show why using BBF is no good and is nothing more than an internet conspiracy theory.
I'm curious. I find BFF to be very useful.
A different viewpoint would be very interesting.
Could you just list them down for us to read instead?
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