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Dec 20, 2021 15:10:04   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
The buttons close to the shutter are ISO and EC, both of which I use. The record button is also close but kind of a weird reach and it’s also harder to feel. The real problem there is functionality. If I use any of those buttons to focus then I have to stop pressing to press the shutter. That really only works if you doing focus and recompose and for single shots. If I’m tracking BIF and shooting bursts I need to keep the button pushed the entire time I’m shooting.


If shooting BIFs using burst I just keep the AEL pushed and fire away.

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Dec 20, 2021 15:22:06   #
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druthven wrote:
BBF has so many advantages I would never go back to shutter release focus.

Since adopting AF back in 1987 I have NEVER found shutter linked AF to be tolerable. That means I’ve always beat the crap out of the AF On-Off switches wherever they were located ... until, finally, BBF (etc) became workable.

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Dec 20, 2021 15:38:00   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Bultaco wrote:
If shooting BIFs using burst I just keep the AEL pushed and fire away.


Exactly. Not easy to do if you’re using a top button close to the shutter button.

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Dec 20, 2021 15:55:06   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
wide2tele wrote:
You'll watch it and maybe you'll even learn something.
I can assure you pros prior to 2007-2008 weren't stupid.
Today there is a lot of yap yap with little ability.


And what exactly do pros prior to 2007-2008 have to do with it?

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Dec 20, 2021 15:57:06   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
billnikon wrote:
I use the rear button thing for single spot focus for when the bird is in a tree and limbs are all over.
Of course, maybe some year I will finally miss one shot. Oh well.


Great capture of a gorgeous specimen
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

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Dec 20, 2021 16:04:24   #
wide2tele Loc: Australia
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
And what exactly do pros prior to 2007-2008 have to do with it?

BBF was possible from 1996 but not used till 2007-2008.
Why?

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Dec 20, 2021 16:11:13   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
wide2tele wrote:
BBF was possible from 1996 but not used till 2007-2008.
Why?


And I’d love to see your evidence that it wasn’t used before 2007-2008. The reason BBF came about was because pros requested it. It’s a pro-driven feature.

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Dec 20, 2021 16:12:12   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Muddyvalley wrote:
On my D850, I use front button for spot focus & rear for group. I was disappointed that the Z7 & Z72 wouldn't permit that.


Wow, fancy! My X-T3's don't allow that either.

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Dec 20, 2021 16:12:42   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
kpmac wrote:
BBF is a must for wildlife action shots. I can't see how anyone can argue that point. Someone will, though.



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Dec 20, 2021 16:14:27   #
khildy Loc: Brownsburg, IN
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I Have been using the shutter release since autofocus hit the scene why switch now.


👍

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Dec 20, 2021 16:15:22   #
khildy Loc: Brownsburg, IN
 
Don, the 2nd son wrote:
I seriously doubt i could retrain my fingers and thumbs to master BBF. I just keep doing what's worked and remember to pause ever so slightly to let the camera focus before the shutter trips.


That in fact my issue. Glad to hear someone else in my boat. 👍

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Dec 20, 2021 16:15:50   #
khildy Loc: Brownsburg, IN
 
KindaSpikey wrote:
I stick with the shutter release, (half press), to focus. I never felt the need or saw the point of using a different button to focus when my finger is already on the button I'm going to shoot with. I sometimes wonder, if cameras came out of the box with a dedicated focus button, (front or back), but gave the option to program the shutter release to do it easily with a half press, how many people would then use that option instead? Anyway, I like having "focus and shoot" under one easy finger press, and think I'll stick with it.
I stick with the shutter release, (half press), to... (show quote)


👍

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Dec 20, 2021 16:22:53   #
wide2tele Loc: Australia
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
And I’d love to see your evidence that it wasn’t used before 2007-2008. The reason BBF came about was because pros requested it. It’s a pro-driven feature.

My evidence is in any piece of photographic history you can find. Go search BBF at dpreview or anywhere else. The site dates back maybe 20 years or more. See how many BBF threads can you find prior to the years I mentioned and how many after.
Read any focusing tips or articles prior to those years in magazines or whatever else and see how much mention there is of BBF.

There are two things in photography that are critical, that people have always struggled with, focus and exposure.
BBF is not great but it is easier for people to get results over really learning the skills of focusing. It was no different than manual focus days. You could achieve great results if you really knew how to follow focus. People didn't so avoided the technique and avoided stuff that moved until an autofocus system could do it for them.

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Dec 20, 2021 16:25:23   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
Correct, my friends, front button focus. I realized that the programable button on the front of my camera, what would’ve been the depth of field preview button back in the day, fell under my fingers just perfectly. I decided it made sense to program it to the thing I most use a button for: focusing. Therefore, I am an unabashed member of the front button focus shooters. Am I the only one in this club?




When I hold my camera, MTG be thumb is aromatically on the ael button, so I set it for BBF. I am too shaky to use my for dinner trip hold the shutter down half way. I always press to hard and miss the shot way to much. BBF is so useful to go other reasons. I can hold it down and be in continuous focus for BIF or action shots, or pies once to focus and recompose.... With small hands, I can not reach the preview button at all, it's useless to me.

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Dec 20, 2021 16:48:22   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
Correct, my friends, front button focus. I realized that the programable button on the front of my camera, what would’ve been the depth of field preview button back in the day, fell under my fingers just perfectly. I decided it made sense to program it to the thing I most use a button for: focusing. Therefore, I am an unabashed member of the front button focus shooters. Am I the only one in this club?


I do what you do. On my Nikon D7500 my FN1 and FN2 buttons, both on the front of the camera are used for the BBF control. I usually use the bottom button (FN2) and my pinky but sometimes when shooting verticals the FN1 button is more convenient. I am a left eyed shooter and using the button on the back of the camera used to put my thumb right on the right lens of my glasses and left it always smeared. Getting used to this setup is no different than getting used to any BBF setup. I love BBF. It is the only way I shoot.
...Cam

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