Diabetic costs
Dec 19, 2021 23:08:23 #
SteveR wrote:
I did not fathom that in this day and time in America that there would not be some kind of plan to help an individual like your stepson receive the insulin that he needed. That just boggles my mind.
Did you see the video?
Dec 20, 2021 05:57:31 #
chikid68 wrote:
Did you see the video?
Yes, I did. I also googled some more on the subject. I just can't understand type 1 diabetics of any economic category having to struggle to get their needed insulin. A friend of mine in college was type 1 from juvenile diabetes and had actually gone blind. We went to Wheaton College. Once a month on a Sunday we would go with a group to skid row in Chicago. Whenever they guys came on the bus and would talk to John, they would ask what his folded up cane was. When he told them it was his walking stick that he used because he was blind, you could see the guys' eyes perk up. We'd also walk around the area and talk to them. If any needed clothing, we had some on the bus.
I am going to look into the insulin availability problem more and write my Congressman and Sensators about it. This type of thing should not happen.
Dec 20, 2021 09:25:43 #
Jack47 wrote:
I was reminded again yesterday of the cost of Insu... (show quote)
There is insulin and then there is INSULIN/ In other words some are affordable and some are VERY expensive. Same with a lot of things. Some cars are VERY expensive- A Bugatti Chiron Goes for 3 million a Hundai sonate 25 grand. and some are less. So if possible have your Doc prescribe the affordable insulin
Dec 20, 2021 09:48:22 #
boberic wrote:
There is insulin and then there is INSULIN/ In other words some are affordable and some are VERY expensive. Same with a lot of things. Some cars are VERY expensive- A Bugatti Chiron Goes for 3 million a Hundai sonate 25 grand. and some are less. So if possible have your Doc prescribe the affordable insulin
There are cars that run and cars that don't run so well. Same with insulin. Cheap insulin is exactly that. Cheap. Just like a cheap car. I've read about it. Have you?
Dec 20, 2021 10:14:50 #
SteveR wrote:
There are cars that run and cars that don't run so well. Same with insulin. Cheap insulin is exactly that. Cheap. Just like a cheap car. I've read about it. Have you?
My diabetic sister-in-law gets her "cheap" insulin for $8 vial at her local Community Health Center. She does not have prescription drug coverage. Her A1C is kept below 7 on this insulin. It's all about food choices and keeping track of your blood sugar and taking your insulin as needed to maintain a target blood sugar.
Having been in the pharmaceutical industry and in anti-diabetics for decades before I retired this year, as well as having been married to a Type 1 diabetic since 1974, I think I know something about insulin.
Dec 20, 2021 11:20:01 #
dakotacheryl wrote:
My diabetic sister-in-law gets her "cheap&quo... (show quote)
Have you read this entire thread? If not, I suggest you go back and read it. I came across an article that talked about the difference between insulins. Is your sister-in-law type-1? My guess is your husband is using Lantis/Humalog and not the old insulins. Read the following article for an explanation of why the less expensive insulins don't work with type 1 diabetes. I use 70/30 in conjunction with Trulicity. Without Trulicity, it is difficult to get good control. I have to use Humalog too often to bring down high levels, and I'm a type 2. Trulicity is not for use with Type 1. My scores are great a and I use half the insulin in conjunction with Trulicity.
https://insulinnation.com/treatment/why-walmart-insulins-arent-the-answer-to-high-insulin-prices/#:~:text=So%2C%20yes%2C%20Walmart%20sells%20twenty-five-dollar%20insulin.%20It%20can,rapid%20rise%20in%20prices%20for%20more%20popular%20insulins.
Dec 20, 2021 11:34:25 #
SteveR wrote:
There are cars that run and cars that don't run so well. Same with insulin. Cheap insulin is exactly that. Cheap. Just like a cheap car. I've read about it. Have you?
I did NOT say cheap or insulin that doesn;t work. But there is much less expensive insulin that have worked for millions of diabetics and are affordable. Another example is housing. you can buy a perfectly acceptable 3 bedroom home in Queens or Brooklyn Or in the Bronx Or Staten Island ( all in NY city) for $350,000 or a 3 bedroom place in Manhattan for 25,million.
Dec 20, 2021 11:35:41 #
boberic wrote:
I did NOT say cheap or insulin that doesn;t work. But there is much less expensive insulin that have worked for millions of diabetics and are affordable
See my previous post and read the link. It may help explain a lot. For type 1 diabetics, not all insulins are the same. Even for me, a type 2, I have difficulty getting good control with 70/30 alone. With Trulicity, I get consistently low results using half to two/thirds the dose of insulin.
Dec 20, 2021 11:49:02 #
Just to put types of insulins into perspective. For 20 years the only insulin available to my husband was pork insulin. Didn’t even need a prescription. Didn’t have glucose test strips etc.
Dec 20, 2021 12:00:03 #
SteveR wrote:
See my previous post and read the link. It may help explain a lot. For type 1 diabetics, not all insulins are the same. Even for me, a type 2, I have difficulty getting good control with 70/30 alone. With Trulicity, I get consistently low results using half to two/thirds the dose of insulin.
I am certainly no expert(ask me about cardiac implants And I know what I am talking about) but have you tried metformin? Much less expensive
Dec 20, 2021 12:47:20 #
boberic wrote:
I am certainly no expert(ask me about cardiac implants And I know what I am talking about) but have you tried metformin? Much less expensive
Metformin is a good option for many type 2 diabetics however it's not a good choice for the type 1.
The big difference between the two is type 1 doesn't make enough insulin where type 2 generally makes enough but the body basically forgot how to properly use it.
Pills like metformin help you to utilize the insulin you produce it doesn't really help if you don't produce enough.
Dec 20, 2021 12:50:07 #
dakotacheryl wrote:
My diabetic sister-in-law gets her "cheap&quo... (show quote)
Since you have a bit of experience with the pharmaceutical industry and diabetes I'm sure you are aware that the cheap insulin does not work for everyone just because it does for your husband.
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