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Nov 9, 2012 09:41:43   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I tend to know where I am and what I have shot when there.

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Nov 9, 2012 09:48:03   #
wteffey Loc: Ocala, FL USA
 
I think that when I look at one of my photos and cannot remember where I was when it was taken, I need more help than a GPS can provide.

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Nov 9, 2012 10:16:55   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
wteffey wrote:
I think that when I look at one of my photos and cannot remember where I was when it was taken, I need more help than a GPS can provide.


Fun statement but just to clarify: that isn't how you use it in Lightroom, etc.

The purpose is to be able to go to the map, click on a place that shows where you took pics, and have all those pics come up in the Library, Organizer, Bridge, etc. That is, it is a way to find your pics, not yourself.

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Nov 9, 2012 10:19:24   #
Irontruck Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
I have a D5100, I use an Eye-Fi card which has its own GPS system that can be turned on or off. I myself don't bother to turn it off for any reason.

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Nov 9, 2012 10:23:23   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Irontruck wrote:
I have a D5100, I use an Eye-Fi card which has its own GPS system that can be turned on or off. I myself don't bother to turn it off for any reason.


I didn't realize the Eye-Fi had a GPS in it. I like that MUCH better than the clunky GPS plug in thing that Nikon makes.

If I'm not mistaken the Eye-Fi is cheaper than the Nikon GPS. I did find a much cheaper knock-off GPS for the Nikon but didn't get it becuase I didn't want to fuss with an external wire, etc. This interests me. Off to check it out!

The D5100 battery is awesome anyway.

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Nov 9, 2012 10:38:57   #
Irontruck Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
I am not sure if every version of the Eye-Fi has GPS, however the 8GB PRO version has it.

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Nov 9, 2012 10:46:16   #
beverett Loc: los angeles
 
anotherview wrote:
Own the Canon S100, and it has the GPS function built in to it. In my experience, the S100 often takes minutes to acquire a GPS signal for associating with the image.

Further, a few days ago, while in a mountain range in Baja, Mexico, my S100 did acquire a GPS signal, but the elevation data varied tens of feet even though I moved only a few feet horizontally and vertically.

Until the GPS function improves in cameras, I'd prefer to try a GPS data logger for later tagging of my images.

Own the Canon S100, and it has the GPS function bu... (show quote)


How's the battery life in the S100? Can you turn the GPS function off?

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Nov 9, 2012 11:05:04   #
arjty
 
I don't know why camera manufacturerors have taken so long to do what the iphone did from the get go. I have an add-on for the Nikon 5100 which has all of the disadvantages indicated in your statement. However I have a need for this feature. I have been recording petroglyphs and pictographs around the western US for many years. Archaeologically it is important to know where they are and additionally what direction they are facing. Some are in caves and some are on more than one side of a rock so the direction is more ambiguous but most face SW, S or SE. So I use an ap on the Iphone (3G) which tells me the location and direction that the camera is facing as well as a better indication of the time than available in the camera because it gets the information from the Satellites. In some of the remote places I go to find the petroglyphs satellite access is not possible because of the canyons, so I get some false locations but I can usually figure that out. Anyway, the point here is that I have to take an Iphone photograph of the work as well as better views from my Nikon and Sony digital cameras because only that ap gives the direction that the camera is facing. By adding 180 degrees to that number I know what direction the petroglyph is facing. Often because of the light, I just have to point and shoot with the Iphone and so the image is not useful but I still can use the location and direction and time data. And I always have more views from my better cameras. This requires a lot of coordination after the fact but is enjoyable back at the computer as I put the results in Power Points along with maps and other data... An integrated and sophisticated gps I would really prefer.

the Iphone view and data
the Iphone view and data...

View from the Sony DSC-F828
View from the Sony DSC-F828...

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Nov 9, 2012 11:16:13   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Irontruck wrote:
I am not sure if every version of the Eye-Fi has GPS, however the 8GB PRO version has it.


I checked it out and from what I can tell: not exactly.

It does geotagging when you have access to WIFI. But it uses the WIFI router information instead of a GPS.

Since most of my shooting is far from the madding crowds (and routers) it doesn't do what I'd want. Darn.

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Nov 9, 2012 11:55:38   #
Joecosentino Loc: Whitesboro, New York
 
I have used Nikons GP-1 since getting my d 90. I use it on about 90% of my photos ans always when traveling. It takes a couple of minutes to capture a good signal he first time. So will start the camera leave it on the passenger seat and by the time i get to my first photo site it's ready to go. After the first use of th day it captures the satellites pretty quick.

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Nov 9, 2012 12:48:29   #
banjonut Loc: Southern Michigan
 
wteffey wrote:
I think that when I look at one of my photos and cannot remember where I was when it was taken, I need more help than a GPS can provide.


Sometimes it is not enough to know where you were in general, but 'exactly' where you were.

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Nov 9, 2012 12:49:22   #
david48lindsay Loc: New Zealand
 
I also carry a GPS full time and track all my trips.

What is the small utility that you use to match up the data from the time stamps?

Reading this item, my feelings are that the GPS is built for the job it does, the aerial is good, and the whole system is set up for the best battery life it can deliver, so to use the camera Canon EOS60D for what it was intended - taking great photos, and my Garmin GPSmap 62s for what it is built to deliver, then have something that will marry the two data streams seems to me to be the best of both worlds.

I would love to be able to get the software and do this also.

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Nov 9, 2012 12:49:44   #
Daryl New Loc: Wellington,New Zealand
 
Hey,thanks for this post,really interested in all your thoughts.If we were to look at buying would go for car unit.

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Nov 9, 2012 12:59:38   #
david48lindsay Loc: New Zealand
 
I bought the Garmin as a single unit to satisfy the following shopping list - I wanted a GPS to take skiing, tramping, biking, yachting, and to hold all the Topo Maps for NZ and Australia, and lastly to use between the car and the campervan. We even use it in Radio Controlled aircraft as well.

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Nov 9, 2012 13:02:06   #
mel Loc: Jacksonville, Florida
 
Picdude wrote:
It seems the inherent issue with Built-in GPS is that when you first turn it on there is going to be a delay while the device acquires GPS data. This isn't as much a camera issue as the nature-of-the-beast. If you have a Garmin or Tom-Tom device you will find they too take a minute or more (depending on your location when you turn it on) to acquire a GPS signal and find themselves. It seems that this feature alone can be irritating to many photographers who have the need/desire to be able to quickly turn their camera on and capture that photo-of-opportunity with GPS data. If your camera is already on, and sleep mode is disabled and it has acquired GPS before you go on your shoot it is not as bad. However, this can be quite a drain on the battery in the best of condtions. Keep in mind the GPS antenna is kind of "iffy" on a camera because it's main focus is taking pictures, not tracking location, so if you are in and out of buildings during this time (especially those of modern construction), it is likely you will lose the GPS signal on your camera until you exit the building, which means a)The camera is putting a heavier than normal drain on the battery trying to get the signal back and b)When you exit, it will still be a minute or two while it finds the satelites again. Dedicated GPS trackers (and phones for that matter) have much better antennas for this sort of thing but even they have issues inside some structures, as well as outside where you are surrounded by tall buildings.

Seems to be much easier all around to just to use an external tracking device that is more geared to performing that type of operation, IMHO.
It seems the inherent issue with Built-in GPS is t... (show quote)


I went on a cruise this year and visited many areas in Europe. Usually I forget where I take my pictures, so I purchased a i-gotu USB logger to help me in this regard. I took over 3000 pictures and only remembered a handful of times to click the GPS at the same time I took the picture. Also as the time changed all the time, depending where we were on the planet, it meant synchronizing the camera with the GPS practically daily. A pain in the ass if ever there was one. I now have a Lumix with GPS but may never go on another trip like that again.

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