BBurns
Loc: South Bay, California
Then, of course, there is the easy solution to the question.
If you have installed the
Toyota App on your phone and created your own personal account, you can see quickly what is there.
This is also how Toyota sends software updates to your car.
As a Toyota owner, with your VIN at the ready, simply call
Toyota Connected Services.
Ask them exactly what services you have activated and what other options are available to you. Some may be gratis and some not.
I am a long time Toyota person. I currently own a 2017 RAV4 Platinum & a 2021 4Runner Limited Nightshade Edition.
All of this connected stuff works flawlessly. If I forget to lock the 4Runner, I can do it remotely with my phone.
As far as SiriusXM is concerned, here is how I learned to negotiate with them.
You MUST physically call them, you cannot barter online. Just play the game by refusing their initial offers.
You will get the run-a-round with a couple of unacceptable offers.
After you refuse those, they will usually transfer you to an ‘Account Specialist’ who will also make 1 or 2 offers.
Just keep refusing until you finally get to about $6/mo. It may be $25/5 mo. or $30/6 mo.
I had to do this for a couple of years. This year they finally offered me $60/yr. and I got it for both cars.
Old Coot wrote:
Just look at Streaming TV. Used to be virtually free. Now everyone is starting to charge a monthly fee
Yes! Very annoying. Fortunately, YouTube has been keeping me entertained - also Netflix and Prime, etc.
Guyserman wrote:
My key fob (2019 RAV4) has buttons for Alarm, Lock, Unlock,.and Tail Gate Operation. There is no button for remote start and I have had no communication from Toyota. This is much Ado about nothing.
I 2 own a 2019 RAV4 and can remote start it by using the key fob. I think so can you if you want. Since ours is also equipped with a remote start system we don’t have to use the key fob method but it does work (curiosity made me do it). You just use is the “lock button” to perform the job. Just press and release the “lock button” twice within 2 seconds and your hazard lights will flash. Then press and hold the “lock button” for 3 seconds. Again the hazard lights will flash and within 10 seconds the vehicle will start. Not sure if I left anything out but you can find the instructions regarding this operation on more than one video on uTube.
LittleRed (Ron)
JohnSwanda wrote:
This is the General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk) section of the forum, exactly where this post belongs.
Yessireee. General chit chat. We cover a lot of topics here, and encourage civil discourse. The operative word being civil.
The guy on the video is probably one of those losers who believes and promotes any wild conspiracy theory that floats by. It must be exhausting to be so paranoid.
alexol wrote:
The first post was about remote STARTING, not unlocking...
Of course. But there's always the fear of creeping incrementalism among the conspiracy theorists.
I'm happy with our Priuses. The remote key fob will start the air conditioner from a distance, and it also contains a mechanical key that comes in handy every couple of years when the key fob battery dies, or every 5-6 years when the 12-Volt accessory-and-computer-power battery dies. (These are user-changeable items, by the way. I changed both in my kid's 2009 last week.)
[I think subscription plans are just beginning to get started. We're doomed.[/quote]
Thanks, Adobe.
Pumble wrote:
Albeit first, this has nothing to do with a photography forum. Second, don't put much reliance on youtube videos, they're uninformed and misleading. You do realize you lined this guy's pocket by watching, right?
The notions in the video are simply nuts. It's fake news. Toyota cannot charge for use of the keyfob that has no tie to any Toyota service. How in heaven's name would they control your seat heater if you didn't pay? It's just silly and he's probably a guy that in 1999 also said your Mr. Coffee would not work at Y2K...
Toyota has announced the trial period for their internet based service called Remote Connect is over. The Remote Connect app allows you to use your phone to remote start the car just like a keyfob the same as GM already has with MyChevy App. Up to now, Remote Connect has been a remote trial. But subscriptions are already here, I'm sure you've heard of GM's Onstar, Adobe (Acrobat, Lightroom and Photoshop), Microsoft Office 365, your monthly cell phone, or any other manufacturer that offers a service over the net.
The solution - don't use the Remote Connect service, buy a car with no remote start and stop watching fake news youtube politics ...
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I just bought a new 2021 Toyota Highlander Platinum, and that’s exactly what Toyota told me.
koratcat wrote:
[I think subscription plans are just beginning to get started. We're doomed.[/quote]
Thanks, Adobe.
There have been subscriptions long before Adobe did it. In fact, before Adobe was thought of. If you got magazines in your mail, it got there by subscription. If you had cable, electricity or gas, it was by subscription. All of us that got Roku or Hulu on computers, to cut back on cable bills got a rude awakening. Now to get what you want to watch costs nearly as much as cable and it is rising.
Guyserman wrote:
My key fob (2019 RAV4) has buttons for Alarm, Lock, Unlock,.and Tail Gate Operation. There is no button for remote start and I have had no communication from Toyota. This is much Ado about nothing.
My key fob is just like yours. Mine is a 2021 Toyota Highlander Platinum model. I have remote start, but it’s not on the key fob. On my iPhone, I have the Toyota app. When I open it, it gives me the option to remote start the car by holding down the remote start button on the phone, and it starts. It has nothing to do with the key fob at all.
cwp3420 wrote:
My key fob is just like yours. Mine is a 2021 Toyota Highlander Platinum model. I have remote start, but it’s not on the key fob. On my iPhone, I have the Toyota app. When I open it, it gives me the option to remote start the car by holding down the remote start button on the phone, and it starts. It has nothing to do with the key fob at all.
Do a quick search on uTube and you will see that there is a way to start your 2021 Toyota Highlander by using only the key fob. You use a sequence of presses of the “lock button”.
LittleRed (Ron)
Cyberkinesis70 wrote:
There have been subscriptions long before Adobe did it. In fact, before Adobe was thought of. If you got magazines in your mail, it got there by subscription. If you had cable, electricity or gas, it was by subscription. All of us that got Roku or Hulu on computers, to cut back on cable bills got a rude awakening. Now to get what you want to watch costs nearly as much as cable and it is rising.
Shameless Rant:
What do people expect? That content creators will do their work for free? Unh uhh. Not just no, but F--- no! There is no free lunch, and no free entertainment.
Intellectual property may be a strange concept to some, but it involves really hard work, real creativity, and demands real pay. Music isn't free. Movies and music aren't free. Concerts cost someone something. The people who write books, software, scripts, and music work really hard to get it right.
Folks who think the Internet should serve free TV, music, books, and movies — or free software — need a reality check.
There was a rude, crude, and socially unacceptable bumper sticker in the 1970s: "A$$, Gas, or Grass, Nobody rides for free!" I LOVE the important sentiment behind it to this day. I won't profess to be some evil capitalist, or the redneck pervert driving the '65 pickup with that sticker on it, but I do think creatives should be paid handsomely for their work. I've done my share and I know how hard it is.
Pumble wrote:
Albeit first, this has nothing to do with a photography forum. Second, don't put much reliance on youtube videos, they're uninformed and misleading. You do realize you lined this guy's pocket by watching, right?
The notions in the video are simply nuts. It's fake news. Toyota cannot charge for use of the keyfob that has no tie to any Toyota service. How in heaven's name would they control your seat heater if you didn't pay? It's just silly and he's probably a guy that in 1999 also said your Mr. Coffee would not work at Y2K...
Toyota has announced the trial period for their internet based service called Remote Connect is over. The Remote Connect app allows you to use your phone to remote start the car just like a keyfob the same as GM already has with MyChevy App. Up to now, Remote Connect has been a remote trial. But subscriptions are already here, I'm sure you've heard of GM's Onstar, Adobe (Acrobat, Lightroom and Photoshop), Microsoft Office 365, your monthly cell phone, or any other manufacturer that offers a service over the net.
The solution - don't use the Remote Connect service, buy a car with no remote start and stop watching fake news youtube politics ...
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Look at the heading of this thread, it is "General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)." There is always someone who does not pay attention to the sub forum title and complains about it not being the right place for a topic.
I just had to have a short rant.
BBurns
Loc: South Bay, California
burkphoto wrote:
Shameless Rant:
What do people expect? That content creators will do their work for free? Unh uhh. Not just no, but F--- no! There is no free lunch, and no free entertainment.
Intellectual property may be a strange concept to some, but it involves really hard work, real creativity, and demands real pay. Music isn't free. Movies and music aren't free. Concerts cost someone something. The people who write books, software, scripts, and music work really hard to get it right.
Folks who think the Internet should serve free TV, music, books, and movies — or free software — need a reality check.
There was a rude, crude, and socially unacceptable bumper sticker in the 1970s: "A$$, Gas, or Grass, Nobody rides for free!" I LOVE the important sentiment behind it to this day. I won't profess to be some evil capitalist, or the redneck pervert driving the '65 pickup with that sticker on it, but I do think creatives should be paid handsomely for their work. I've done my share and I know how hard it is.
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Absolutely agree. There was companion bumper sticker to the one you quoted.
“No Butt, No Putt!”
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