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Dec 14, 2021 11:32:19   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
Tdearing wrote:
I know a lady here in Rockport, TX with diabetes, I will ask her to contact her physician for info on a needy patient, it is again such a kind gesture that could make a gigantic difference in someones life.


Thank you

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Dec 14, 2021 11:33:41   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Drug companies are allowed to market directly to consumers in the US - not true in most countries. For an interesting exercise, use the GoodRx Ap to look up the prices of the medications you see advertised on TV. You will be shocked. The new oral medications for Type 2 diabetes (not needing insulin) can be as much as $900 per month. All of the biologic injectables for psoriasis, Crohn's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, etc, run about $4,000 per month. Humira has played legal games and has extended its patent way beyond what should have been the limit. They put a smaller needle and a different chemical buffer in it so that it doesn't sting so much - but they continue to sting you at the pharmacy because there is no generic which would have been thousands of dollars cheaper. Of course, a big part of the problem in the US is that the people who vote generally have health insurance and have no clue how much their medications actually cost. I had a patient complain about their $80 copayment for their leukemia tablet. They were very surprised when I showed them on GoodRx that the actual monthly cost of that medication - for 30 pills - was OVER $9,000!

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Dec 14, 2021 11:36:14   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
thom w wrote:
If someone were to give an accurate critique of admin, it would probably be their last post.


I wasn’t criticizing Admin but I always thought that in the attic anything goes. I was just surprised that it was removed from chit-chat. I don’t subscribe to the attic and I thought there might be a lot more here that don’t.

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Dec 14, 2021 11:39:42   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
sb wrote:
Drug companies are allowed to market directly to consumers in the US - not true in most countries. For an interesting exercise, use the GoodRx Ap to look up the prices of the medications you see advertised on TV. You will be shocked. The new oral medications for Type 2 diabetes (not needing insulin) can be as much as $900 per month. All of the biologic injectables for psoriasis, Crohn's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, etc, run about $4,000 per month. Humira has played legal games and has extended its patent way beyond what should have been the limit. They put a smaller needle and a different chemical buffer in it so that it doesn't sting so much - but they continue to sting you at the pharmacy because there is no generic which would have been thousands of dollars cheaper. Of course, a big part of the problem in the US is that the people who vote generally have health insurance and have no clue how much their medications actually cost. I had a patient complain about their $80 copayment for their leukemia tablet. They were very surprised when I showed them on GoodRx that the actual monthly cost of that medication - for 30 pills - was OVER $9,000!
Drug companies are allowed to market directly to c... (show quote)



I expect there is a lot of money that changes hands with so much at stake for the pharma companies.

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Dec 14, 2021 11:41:10   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
Jack47 wrote:
Sorry, I don’t recall the name but if I find it I will let you know. My condolences to you and your family for your loss.


Thank you although I have to say that it's been a year since he passed away so if it's a recent story it's not likely him but that is even worse since it also indicates that this happens all too often in this country.

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Dec 14, 2021 15:01:19   #
buckwheat Loc: Clarkdale, AZ and Belen NM
 
My wife is an insulin resistant diabetic, but still requires insulin injections. However, she is on a new medication which has virtually eliminated the use of insulin (if she watches her diet). The new drug has side effects, but a company representative calls once a month to monitor her progress, and she still needs a blood test every month. It is truly a miracle drug, but it has one drawback: It costs $16,000.00 a month, and medicare won't pay for it. However, there is an advantage to being poor. We are in a program the company has that if you are under a certain percentage of the National poverty level, the drug is FREE! I generally dislike big pharma, but I love this company!

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Dec 14, 2021 15:16:21   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
buckwheat wrote:
My wife is an insulin resistant diabetic, but still requires insulin injections. However, she is on a new medication which has virtually eliminated the use of insulin (if she watches her diet). The new drug has side effects, but a company representative calls once a month to monitor her progress, and she still needs a blood test every month. It is truly a miracle drug, but it has one drawback: It costs $16,000.00 a month, and medicare won't pay for it. However, there is an advantage to being poor. We are in a program the company has that if you are under a certain percentage of the National poverty level, the drug is FREE! I generally dislike big pharma, but I love this company!
My wife is an insulin resistant diabetic, but stil... (show quote)


Unfortunately they didn't have any programs available in time to save our son
He was on insulin which he was not able to afford so he had to ration his insulin right up until the end.

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Dec 14, 2021 20:33:26   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
buckwheat wrote:
My wife is an insulin resistant diabetic, but still requires insulin injections. However, she is on a new medication which has virtually eliminated the use of insulin (if she watches her diet). The new drug has side effects, but a company representative calls once a month to monitor her progress, and she still needs a blood test every month. It is truly a miracle drug, but it has one drawback: It costs $16,000.00 a month, and medicare won't pay for it. However, there is an advantage to being poor. We are in a program the company has that if you are under a certain percentage of the National poverty level, the drug is FREE! I generally dislike big pharma, but I love this company!
My wife is an insulin resistant diabetic, but stil... (show quote)


👍👍👍

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Dec 14, 2021 20:36:53   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
chikid68 wrote:
Unfortunately they didn't have any programs available in time to save our son
He was on insulin which he was not able to afford so he had to ration his insulin right up until the end.


So sorry for your loss. Wish I had contact before.

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Dec 15, 2021 06:48:37   #
dakotacheryl Loc: Near Mt Rushmore
 
My sister in law gets her insulin through a 340B Community Health Center pharmacy. Her out of pocket cost is $8 per vial.

These pharmacies exist in every state.

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Dec 15, 2021 08:04:42   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
dakotacheryl wrote:
My sister in law gets her insulin through a 340B Community Health Center pharmacy. Her out of pocket cost is $8 per vial.

These pharmacies exist in every state.


Does she have insurance. I’m guessing she does.

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Dec 15, 2021 08:08:48   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
chikid68 wrote:
Unfortunately they didn't have any programs available in time to save our son
He was on insulin which he was not able to afford so he had to ration his insulin right up until the end.


I cannot imagine having to ration something knowing that if I did I was going to die……nor can I imagine living in a country/state that lets that happen.

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Dec 15, 2021 09:41:41   #
dakotacheryl Loc: Near Mt Rushmore
 
Jack47 wrote:
Does she have insurance. I’m guessing she does.


She does not have prescription drug coverage. She goes to a Community Health Center for her care and utilizes a 340B pharmacy. These type of facilities are available to low income patients whether or not they are on Medicaid or Medicare (A&B).

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Dec 15, 2021 16:37:53   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
Jack47 wrote:
I cannot imagine having to ration something knowing that if I did I was going to die……nor can I imagine living in a country/state that lets that happen.


He said many times he wished he lived in someplace like Canada with their health care system although I know that yours has its own flaws too.

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Dec 15, 2021 21:47:20   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Was this person Type 1 or Type 2? If Type 1, I'm surprised this individual was not able to get Medicaid. If type 2, insulin can be purchased for $125/wk with no insurance. With insurance it should be much less.

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