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Dec 13, 2021 09:55:24   #
bobbydvideo
 
I have an Canon EOS R6 mirrorless with a 24-105 f/4L USM lens.
I also have a Canon 18-135mmf/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens that I used on my T7i which I no longer have. So I use and adapter which I don't like. Should I sell the lens and get something that works with my new camera without the use of an adapter or keep it?

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Dec 13, 2021 10:20:08   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
bobbydvideo wrote:
I have an Canon EOS R6 mirrorless with a 24-105 f/4L USM lens.
I also have a Canon 18-135mmf/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens that I used on my T7i which I no longer have. So I use and adapter which I don't like. Should I sell the lens and get something that works with my new camera without the use of an adapter or keep it?

Your 18-135mm is a crop sensor lens and you are using it on a full frame camera. While it may work for you it's not the best choice.

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Dec 13, 2021 10:24:12   #
Tomfl101 Loc: Mount Airy, MD
 
EF lenses perform perfectly with the adapter as I see it. But since you only have two lenses it may be a good time to upgrade to the R series. I'm totally invested with 6 EF's so I'm holding on as long as I can. Go for it if you can afford it!

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Dec 13, 2021 10:42:36   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Yes, sell the EF-S.

As a reminder, your EOS T7i features a 24MP sensor and your EOS R6 lowers the resolution to 20MP, full-frame. When you mount an EF-S lens to the R6, the camera enforces the 1.6 crop factor, yielding images at 8MP.

The 24-105L is nearly an exact overlap to the cropped 18-135, although 'shorter' on the long end. It's hard to consider what to add to the 24-105. Personally, I use my EF 16-35 zoom far more often than the EF 24-105, so personally I'm rather attracted to the new RF 14-35 f/4L.

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Dec 14, 2021 10:38:52   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Yes, sell the EF-S.
...The 24-105L is nearly an exact overlap to the cropped 18-135, although 'shorter' on the long end....

Since there is about a 1/3 difference at both ends, to me the "overlap" isn't that close. YOMV

However, given the crop factor, I wouldn't use the 18-135 on a full body camera.

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Dec 14, 2021 11:25:27   #
MountainDave
 
The performance of EF-S lenses is compromised on the R mount but EF lenses do work seamlessly. Even mounted on the full frame R6, your equivalent field of view is about 29-215mm. If you miss that reach with your 24-105, there are many 70-200 options to explore in both EF and RF mounts. I use a 70-200 4L II version myself on R mounts. It's a great zoom. The RF version sounds great too and is impressively compact and light. Have fun with your research!

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Dec 15, 2021 01:20:22   #
hrblaine
 
MountainDave wrote:
There are many 70-200 options to explore in both EF and RF mounts. I use a 70-200 4L II version myself on R mounts. It's a great zoom.


I use a 70-200 on my 5Dc when I need a little reach. As MtnDave said, "It's a great zoom," Harry

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Dec 15, 2021 02:30:44   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
bobbydvideo wrote:
I have an Canon EOS R6 mirrorless with a 24-105 f/4L USM lens.
I also have a Canon 18-135mmf/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens that I used on my T7i which I no longer have. So I use and adapter which I don't like. Should I sell the lens and get something that works with my new camera without the use of an adapter or keep it?


The R6 is a full frame camera.

The EF-S 18-135mm lens is designed for crop sensor cameras. While it can be adapted onto the R-series cameras, it really doesn't make much sense to do so. Your images are probably being cropped a bit, to conform to the lens.

The EF-S 18-135mm USM is a good lens that you should sell on to someone who has an APS-C Canon DSLR they can use it upon.

There are a lot of great "RF" lenses available for your R6... You also can adapt any of the "EF" lenses for use on the camera with little to no loss of performance. EF lenses are made for full frame DSLRs, so will not cause cropping on your R6.

Without knowing what you like to shoot, it's hard to recommend any of the RF or EF lenses. But between the two lens series, there is just about anything you might want.

EDIT:

First, I forgot to mention above: Keep that EF to RF adapter in case you want to use some other EF lenses on your R6.

And, I looked at your previous posts. I see you have asked about the RF 14-35mm, RF 35mm and RF 50mm lenses.

The 35mm and 50mm duplicate focal lengths you've already got in your 24-105mm. While they might be smaller, lighter lenses with larger apertures, there since you only have a single lens for use on the R6 I think it would be better to try to avoid duplication for the time being. Later you might have some specialized needs that call for one of those lenses, but for now I would not recommend the 35mm or 50mm.

The RF 14-35mm would better complement the RF 24-105mm lens you already have. But that's an ultrawide zoom, if very nice but rather pricey, and may or may not be an ideal lens for your purposes.

In the previous post where you asked about the RF 14-35mm you first wondered if it was "a good all around lens", which it's not. The 24-105mm you already have is much more of an "all arounder". Later in that previous post you asked a bit more specifically about shooting wide and close. The RF 14-35mm certainly can handle "wide", but isn't really a close up lens.

While the RF 14-35mm looks to be quite a nice lens, there are some alternatives:

RF 16mm f/2.8 STM is small, light and inexpensive at $300. And it's very wide (though not quite as wide as 14mm).

There also are excellent EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM an EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM III ultra wide zooms that can be adapted for use on your camera. The EF 16-35mm f/4, in particular, would be lower cost than the RF 14-35mm and is it's equal in most respects. Plus there are even wider EF 14mm f/2.8L and, in RF mount (no adapter needed) Rokinon/Samyang 14mm f/2.8 lenses available.

So there are a lot of ways you can "get wider"... but the RF 16mm f/2.8 appears pretty hard to beat! (Note: Like other Canon non-L series lenses, it doesn't include the matched lens hood. I highly recommend budgeting another $30 or $40 for that.)

Instead of a specialized close-up lens, for now you might want to consider getting macro extension tubes that can be used with your 24-105mm to make it closer focusing. Canon is not yet making macro extension tubes themselves, but some third party manufacturers are. Of those, the Viltrox brand appears the best and I've found other products of theirs to be quite good. It is a set of two tubes (12mm and 24mm) that can be used singly or combined. This gives you three different possible amounts of extension to fit in between the 24-105mm and your camera, which causes the lens to be able to focus a lot closer. On it's own the 24-105mm can do approx. 1/4 life size magnification. Once the 12mm tube is added you will probably get around 1/2 life size, around 3/4 life size with the 24mm and about full life size with both tubes. Macro extension tubes have no optics themselves, so do not degrade image quality. There's a little loss "forcing" a lens to focus closer than it's designed, but it is usually only minor softening in the corners and perhaps some vignetting. Often both can be reduced by stopping the lens (which you will probably be doing anyway, to increase depth of field which gets very shallow at higher magnifications).

Later you might consider a "true" macro lens just for the convenience and if you find yourself doing a lot of close up and macro work. The Canon RF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro lens is excellent, but it ain't cheap! I also don't think the RF 100mm lens can be fitted with a tripod mounting ring, while the EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM and EF 100mm f/2.8 USM both can, plus can be found for considerably less money and used with the adapter you already have.

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Dec 15, 2021 09:42:02   #
bobbydvideo
 
amfoto1 wrote:
The R6 is a full frame camera.

The EF-S 18-135mm lens is designed for crop sensor cameras. While it can be adapted onto the R-series cameras, it really doesn't make much sense to do so. Your images are probably being cropped a bit, to conform to the lens.

The EF-S 18-135mm USM is a good lens that you should sell on to someone who has an APS-C Canon DSLR they can use it upon.

There are a lot of great "RF" lenses available for your R6... You also can adapt any of the "EF" lenses for use on the camera with little to no loss of performance. EF lenses are made for full frame DSLRs, so will not cause cropping on your R6.

Without knowing what you like to shoot, it's hard to recommend any of the RF or EF lenses. But between the two lens series, there is just about anything you might want.

EDIT:

First, I forgot to mention above: Keep that EF to RF adapter in case you want to use some other EF lenses on your R6.

And, I looked at your previous posts. I see you have asked about the RF 14-35mm, RF 35mm and RF 50mm lenses.

The 35mm and 50mm duplicate focal lengths you've already got in your 24-105mm. While they might be smaller, lighter lenses with larger apertures, there since you only have a single lens for use on the R6 I think it would be better to try to avoid duplication for the time being. Later you might have some specialized needs that call for one of those lenses, but for now I would not recommend the 35mm or 50mm.

The RF 14-35mm would better complement the RF 24-105mm lens you already have. But that's an ultrawide zoom, if very nice but rather pricey, and may or may not be an ideal lens for your purposes.

In the previous post where you asked about the RF 14-35mm you first wondered if it was "a good all around lens", which it's not. The 24-105mm you already have is much more of an "all arounder". Later in that previous post you asked a bit more specifically about shooting wide and close. The RF 14-35mm certainly can handle "wide", but isn't really a close up lens.

While the RF 14-35mm looks to be quite a nice lens, there are some alternatives:

RF 16mm f/2.8 STM is small, light and inexpensive at $300. And it's very wide (though not quite as wide as 14mm).

There also are excellent EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM an EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM III ultra wide zooms that can be adapted for use on your camera. The EF 16-35mm f/4, in particular, would be lower cost than the RF 14-35mm and is it's equal in most respects. Plus there are even wider EF 14mm f/2.8L and, in RF mount (no adapter needed) Rokinon/Samyang 14mm f/2.8 lenses available.

So there are a lot of ways you can "get wider"... but the RF 16mm f/2.8 appears pretty hard to beat! (Note: Like other Canon non-L series lenses, it doesn't include the matched lens hood. I highly recommend budgeting another $30 or $40 for that.)

Instead of a specialized close-up lens, for now you might want to consider getting macro extension tubes that can be used with your 24-105mm to make it closer focusing. Canon is not yet making macro extension tubes themselves, but some third party manufacturers are. Of those, the Viltrox brand appears the best and I've found other products of theirs to be quite good. It is a set of two tubes (12mm and 24mm) that can be used singly or combined. This gives you three different possible amounts of extension to fit in between the 24-105mm and your camera, which causes the lens to be able to focus a lot closer. On it's own the 24-105mm can do approx. 1/4 life size magnification. Once the 12mm tube is added you will probably get around 1/2 life size, around 3/4 life size with the 24mm and about full life size with both tubes. Macro extension tubes have no optics themselves, so do not degrade image quality. There's a little loss "forcing" a lens to focus closer than it's designed, but it is usually only minor softening in the corners and perhaps some vignetting. Often both can be reduced by stopping the lens (which you will probably be doing anyway, to increase depth of field which gets very shallow at higher magnifications).

Later you might consider a "true" macro lens just for the convenience and if you find yourself doing a lot of close up and macro work. The Canon RF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro lens is excellent, but it ain't cheap! I also don't think the RF 100mm lens can be fitted with a tripod mounting ring, while the EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM and EF 100mm f/2.8 USM both can, plus can be found for considerably less money and used with the adapter you already have.
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