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Dec 9, 2021 09:55:49   #
lbrande
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't help myself. I think manufactures missed an opportunity when they didn't agree on a universal battery style. I have Ryobi and DeWalt cordless tools, so I'm limited to buying only those brands. If I spend a couple of hundred dollars on a Milwaukee, I'd have to spend another couple of hundred on a charger and batteries.

I wanted to buy a cordless impact wrench so I wouldn't have to deal with the compressor and air hose. Since I'm not a professional mechanic, I didn't need the best, just something that worked. The Bauer, from Harbor Freight, was surprisingly good for just $90, compared with $170 for a DeWalt. Unfortunately, adding just one battery and charger would bring the total to $165, and I would have to make an hour and a half roundtrip drive to get it. So, I ordered a DeWalt from Amazon and used my credit to pay almost half the cost. It will be delivered for free on Friday.

I realize that manufacturers think that once you have their cordless system, you're stuck with them, but they should also realize that if you haven't started with their system, it will probably never be a choice. Yes, I know there are adapters to use a Brand A battery on a Brand B tool, but that's just an added complication - and more expense.

There. I'm done.
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I use Dewalt and have 3 different battery types for the tools that I have. The batteries typically can cost over $90 each.

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Dec 9, 2021 10:36:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
lbrande wrote:
I use Dewalt and have 3 different battery types for the tools that I have. The batteries typically can cost over $90 each.


As someone mentioned, the batteries are link printer ink.

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Dec 9, 2021 10:38:31   #
G. Crook Loc: Linden, TX
 
Living on a farm with cattle, horses and many other critters and having a custom haying business, we use a lot of different tools. Most of our wrk is away from the shop. I have gone almost exclusively to battery powered tools. I’ve used and owned Ryobi, Dewalt. B&D and others. Several year ago we started using Milwaukee. We probably have between 25-30 tools.

Some are 12 volt, the rest are 18 volt. We have at least 5 chargers scattered through the shop and in our houses. We probably have 20+ batteries. Nothing Milwaukee is cheap, however, the quality and durability is exemplary in my opinion. We usually wait for the Christmas sales to buy batteries. We have yet in 5 years had a battery failure.

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Dec 9, 2021 10:53:36   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't help myself. I think manufactures missed an opportunity when they didn't agree on a universal battery style. I have Ryobi and DeWalt cordless tools, so I'm limited to buying only those brands. If I spend a couple of hundred dollars on a Milwaukee, I'd have to spend another couple of hundred on a charger and batteries.

I wanted to buy a cordless impact wrench so I wouldn't have to deal with the compressor and air hose. Since I'm not a professional mechanic, I didn't need the best, just something that worked. The Bauer, from Harbor Freight, was surprisingly good for just $90, compared with $170 for a DeWalt. Unfortunately, adding just one battery and charger would bring the total to $165, and I would have to make an hour and a half roundtrip drive to get it. So, I ordered a DeWalt from Amazon and used my credit to pay almost half the cost. It will be delivered for free on Friday.

I realize that manufacturers think that once you have their cordless system, you're stuck with them, but they should also realize that if you haven't started with their system, it will probably never be a choice. Yes, I know there are adapters to use a Brand A battery on a Brand B tool, but that's just an added complication - and more expense.

There. I'm done.
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't hel... (show quote)


I gave up on the battery scam years ago. I bought a Home Depot Ridgid system that comes with a lifetime warranty. I have never had to buy anything again. Batteries, drills, impact wrench, saws and chargers. When one fails I file a claim and a replacement is sent to me. FREE

https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/full-lifetime-warranty

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Dec 9, 2021 10:56:06   #
bnsf
 
When I first started purchasing cordless tools Craftsman was the brand that i purchased, nut over time I found out thar DeWalt was the best tool on the market, I have had no problems with the DeWalt cordless tools over the 30 plus years that I have owned them except for the batteries no holding a charge, but the tools I have had no problems with. Better that what I can stay for Craftsman.

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Dec 9, 2021 10:57:44   #
ecblackiii Loc: Maryland
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't help myself. I think manufactures missed an opportunity when they didn't agree on a universal battery style. I have Ryobi and DeWalt cordless tools, so I'm limited to buying only those brands. If I spend a couple of hundred dollars on a Milwaukee, I'd have to spend another couple of hundred on a charger and batteries.

I wanted to buy a cordless impact wrench so I wouldn't have to deal with the compressor and air hose. Since I'm not a professional mechanic, I didn't need the best, just something that worked. The Bauer, from Harbor Freight, was surprisingly good for just $90, compared with $170 for a DeWalt. Unfortunately, adding just one battery and charger would bring the total to $165, and I would have to make an hour and a half roundtrip drive to get it. So, I ordered a DeWalt from Amazon and used my credit to pay almost half the cost. It will be delivered for free on Friday.

I realize that manufacturers think that once you have their cordless system, you're stuck with them, but they should also realize that if you haven't started with their system, it will probably never be a choice. Yes, I know there are adapters to use a Brand A battery on a Brand B tool, but that's just an added complication - and more expense.

There. I'm done.
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't hel... (show quote)


Everything in business is done with an eye to "aftermarket sales". Kodak was not really in the camera business; it was in the film business. Printer manufacturers are not really in the business of making the machines; they are in the ink or toner business. Cordless hand tools now replace corded hand tools because the batteries that need replacing from time to time can be made brand-unique. It's just common sense from a business standpoint!

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Dec 9, 2021 12:39:51   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
A universal battery would not give the tool manufactures exclusivity for their batteries. It would be an open market and have a price reduction.

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Dec 9, 2021 12:43:40   #
lbrande
 
That's why I went to Batteries+ for my Dewalt replacements.

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Dec 9, 2021 13:17:55   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
jerryc41 wrote:
.......I realize that manufacturers think that once you have their cordless system, you're stuck with them, but they should also realize that if you haven't started with their system, it will probably never be a choice. Yes, I know there are adapters to use a Brand A battery on a Brand B tool, but that's just an added complication - and more expense....

The adapters are a life saver (and money). If I can't find an adapter to Makita I won't buy it. I have a B&D pole saw that I can no longer get their 18v batteries for (at anything like a reasonable cost anyway). So I mated an old B&D Firestorm battery to a Makita adapter designed to provide USB power. Apart from being slightly bulkier than the usual adapter it works a charm and has done so for a few years now. Cost me about $20. Same goes for Makita to Milwaukee batteries - I have 2 of them. One battery system - so simple.
I think some of the manufacturers are getting very clued up. I have my eye on a pair of loppers that would adapt to my B&D pole saw extension arms (once that fails) but they either come at 25v or 14.4v so that won't work. Not yet anyway. I think Ryobi has an 18v one but I have yet to see it to ascertain whether it could be adapted. I might just get a Makita to Ryobi adapter only if I can find one. I need the extension arms to give me a longer reach.

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Dec 9, 2021 13:49:09   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't help myself. I think manufactures missed an opportunity when they didn't agree on a universal battery style. I have Ryobi and DeWalt cordless tools, so I'm limited to buying only those brands. If I spend a couple of hundred dollars on a Milwaukee, I'd have to spend another couple of hundred on a charger and batteries.

I wanted to buy a cordless impact wrench so I wouldn't have to deal with the compressor and air hose. Since I'm not a professional mechanic, I didn't need the best, just something that worked. The Bauer, from Harbor Freight, was surprisingly good for just $90, compared with $170 for a DeWalt. Unfortunately, adding just one battery and charger would bring the total to $165, and I would have to make an hour and a half roundtrip drive to get it. So, I ordered a DeWalt from Amazon and used my credit to pay almost half the cost. It will be delivered for free on Friday.

I realize that manufacturers think that once you have their cordless system, you're stuck with them, but they should also realize that if you haven't started with their system, it will probably never be a choice. Yes, I know there are adapters to use a Brand A battery on a Brand B tool, but that's just an added complication - and more expense.

There. I'm done.
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't hel... (show quote)


All auto dealers screwed up, they could have all made the same car with the same engine the same color, on and on. Wow what an interesting world that would be, like North Korea .

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Dec 9, 2021 14:33:23   #
Old Coot
 
Sirsnapalot wrote:


Thanks for the info
I just ordered the Dewalt to Ryobi adapter

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Dec 9, 2021 14:42:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
One Rude Dawg wrote:
All auto dealers screwed up, they could have all made the same car with the same engine the same color, on and on. Wow what an interesting world that would be, like North Korea .


Model T Ford.

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Dec 9, 2021 14:43:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Old Coot wrote:
Thanks for the info
I just ordered the Dewalt to Ryobi adapter


I have an adaptor for Ryobi and DeWalt, but I'm not sure which way it goes. I'll have to check on that.

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Dec 9, 2021 18:28:58   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't help myself. I think manufactures missed an opportunity when they didn't agree on a universal battery style. I have Ryobi and DeWalt cordless tools, so I'm limited to buying only those brands. If I spend a couple of hundred dollars on a Milwaukee, I'd have to spend another couple of hundred on a charger and batteries.

I wanted to buy a cordless impact wrench so I wouldn't have to deal with the compressor and air hose. Since I'm not a professional mechanic, I didn't need the best, just something that worked. The Bauer, from Harbor Freight, was surprisingly good for just $90, compared with $170 for a DeWalt. Unfortunately, adding just one battery and charger would bring the total to $165, and I would have to make an hour and a half roundtrip drive to get it. So, I ordered a DeWalt from Amazon and used my credit to pay almost half the cost. It will be delivered for free on Friday.

I realize that manufacturers think that once you have their cordless system, you're stuck with them, but they should also realize that if you haven't started with their system, it will probably never be a choice. Yes, I know there are adapters to use a Brand A battery on a Brand B tool, but that's just an added complication - and more expense.

There. I'm done.
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't hel... (show quote)


Jerry, hummmm, I guess you missed my post about pawn shops. I have three Milwaukee "drills" (called hole shooters), three, with three chargers and four batteries, one is a hammer drill. My cost for all that was about $150 and the tools, batteries and chargers are now at four years age. I swear, buying pawn shop used is a great way to shop. I'm back to find some more and you can bet I will go with Milwaukee all the way, why second best when you can have the Cadillac of hand tools to work with.

And yes, they get bounced around, some days they get their batteries recharged three times, that much work at least once a week.

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Dec 9, 2021 19:00:58   #
Cell315
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't help myself. I think manufactures missed an opportunity when they didn't agree on a universal battery style. I have Ryobi and DeWalt cordless tools, so I'm limited to buying only those brands. If I spend a couple of hundred dollars on a Milwaukee, I'd have to spend another couple of hundred on a charger and batteries.

I wanted to buy a cordless impact wrench so I wouldn't have to deal with the compressor and air hose. Since I'm not a professional mechanic, I didn't need the best, just something that worked. The Bauer, from Harbor Freight, was surprisingly good for just $90, compared with $170 for a DeWalt. Unfortunately, adding just one battery and charger would bring the total to $165, and I would have to make an hour and a half roundtrip drive to get it. So, I ordered a DeWalt from Amazon and used my credit to pay almost half the cost. It will be delivered for free on Friday.

I realize that manufacturers think that once you have their cordless system, you're stuck with them, but they should also realize that if you haven't started with their system, it will probably never be a choice. Yes, I know there are adapters to use a Brand A battery on a Brand B tool, but that's just an added complication - and more expense.

There. I'm done.
I'm bringing up cordless tools again. I can't hel... (show quote)


Jerry, it gets way worse than that. Some time back I bought a nice little Skil 12-volt drill. I liked it a lot because it is small, light, a big deal when you are 20-feet up a ladder. So I bought another one. This was a few years ago. Now, as I understand it, Bosch was the actual designer of this tool....And now we know that Bosch also bought Skil tools--the name anyway. It gets worse. Some time after this, I purchased a 12-volt Bosch impact driver. It too, is small and light and the lithium bat. is small, but lasts and lasts. These two tools have essentially the same battery--12-volt. But they will not interchange between tools, due to some mechanical interference built in. However, they will work perfectly in each others' chargers. The battery for the "Skil" now if you can find one, costs about $98. The battery for the impact driver can be had for about $12. I actually wrote a letter to Bosch about this highway robbery, twice in fact--and never received a reply. I am pretty much through with any serious battery operated tools anyway--they happen to be an ecological disaster in the making--and I am not a tree-hugger! I enjoy your posts--keep it up. David---Kailua Kona, HI

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