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Dec 8, 2021 15:08:54   #
RJWagons Loc: Lake Ridge Virginia
 
ChgCanon: Thank you - again - for always going the extra mile to help someone. Your replies are always clear, concise and intelligent and I usually look at your response and ignore most of the others. I stopped reading for a long time because of the smarty/smirky and sarcastic responses of some but decided to be more intelligent myself and ignore those and focus on the positive remarks. Thanks again!

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Dec 8, 2021 15:21:15   #
James May
 
Thank You so Much

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Dec 8, 2021 15:35:50   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
camerapapi wrote:
I will give you my take on this but after reading what Paul wrote and his personal opinion on this matter indeed there is little I can contribute to this thread. I will do the best I can though.

In the first place and, I did already discussed this with Nikon, why did you have to mess around with focus calibration? If you buy a lens under warranty and you see that in general your images are not in focus the proper step to take is to contact the manufacturer or general distributor of that particular lens. I have been using Nikon lenses for more than 50 years and I NEVER ever needed to calibrate anything. If the lens needs calibration I send it to the manufacturer. I have never used the Nikon 24-120 VR but from all I know it is a good lens and very capable of excellent images.

Most AF errors are operator's error. In addition and I have not examined your images to determine what you did but when depth of field is a necessity small apertures are in order. You do not have to lock the mirror for every single landscape you photograph but it helps a lot to make an image sharper. I also agree with the gentleman that has suggested that sophisticated software is not necessary to sharpen an image where proper technique was used. Cameras without the AA filter output sharp images and cameras with the filter are sporting filters which are pretty thin with just a minimal amount of imperceptible blur in their images.

Apart from the many useful suggestions you have already received I would like to offer another one. If you have a reliable photo technician nearby take your camera and lens to that repair station and ask to have your camera and lens calibrated or checked for calibration. This way you will make sure that if calibration is OK you will be at fault, not the camera or lens.

Finally, a tripod, even if using VR is in my humble opinion one of the most useful tools in photography when proper technique is used. Manufacturers of cameras recommend to keep VR off during the exposure but I have accidentally left it on without ill effects. A tripod and a locked mirror are the best assurance that an image will be sharp when we do our part.
I will give you my take on this but after reading ... (show quote)


With these new mirrorless cameras with IBIS with some having 8 stops I think a tripod is not a necessity anymore for normal lit situations . Also these cameras are able to handle a lot higher iso's. Good technique is the key. Understanding light is so important.

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Dec 8, 2021 16:03:25   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If the OP isn't going to participate, I guess we can talk amongst ourselves. I'm confident the AF information has been stripped by the Affinity processing, similar to how LR will do the same. We'll get more about the first image with an unedited version. Answers to the several questions will further help fill-in context and background to how that image was created.

To your experience with BBF, whether the AF is active or not when the shutter is released is not directly relevant, certainly not for a static shot of these rocks. You can obtain focus and release your thumb from the assigned back-button focus. The camera / lens remains in focus as long as you don't change the position / distance of the camera to the subject. Alternatively, you can press and hold the BBF through releasing the shutter on the static rocks. Either approach should accomplish a sharply focused image straight out of camera. That SOOC in-focus image is what is missing from the first example and the issue and cause we should seek to resolve.
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My issue was because I moving subjects 98% of the time. In my case, the af system has to be active. Understand static subjects.

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Dec 8, 2021 17:30:05   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
ELNikkor wrote:
I have the exact outfit, (D750, 24-120 F4, 2017 Kit). Since new, I've had a Lenskins 77mm UV filter on it. At all focal lengths, and even hand-held to 1/20 sec., my photos with that combination have been very sharp and held up well to cropping. Occasionally, I have resorted to the MUp setting. It is always when the camera is on a tripod, and usually in a low-light situation, when timing is not important. The camera sits there with the mirror up for 30 seconds, then makes the exposure. Most of my shooting is on a center-point focus setting. If I was you, I might try every focus mode, with every focus point array and see if there is a clue as to which setting might be best for your specific subjects, before resorting to sending the whole works off to Nikon.
I have the exact outfit, (D750, 24-120 F4, 2017 Ki... (show quote)


Under the custom settings menu select exposure delay mode, and you can choose from 1, or 2, or 3 second delay. In this mode the mirror goes up as soon as you press the shutter button, and the shutter opens after your selected delay time (page 339 in the D750 user manual) Quicker than the 30sec delay in Mup mode, or possible camera movement from pressing the shutter button a second time in Mup mode, (page 109 in the user manual) this wouldn't be a problem if using a remote.

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Dec 8, 2021 19:48:05   #
Hip Coyote
 
OP won't respond...no wonder he has focus issues...

moving on

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Dec 8, 2021 20:51:21   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Retired CPO wrote:
The OP seems to misunderstand the difference between focus and motion. Locking the mirror up which I do on every shot when I'm shooting medium format has nothing to do with focus and everything to do with motion. Using Live View has nothing to do with motion and everything to do with focus. Until the OP understands what he is doing, there is NO FIXING his problem with blurry photos!!


If the OP's blurry photos are caused by camera shake (i.e., "motion") that's being caused by mirror slap, then they have choice of:

1. Use mirror lockup, which is somewhere in the menu of many cameras... might be able to assign the function to a button.

2. Use Live View, which also raises the mirror out of the way, giving the same results as mirror lockup.

In this respect, Live View has quite a lot to do with motion. Live View may have the advantage of single button access, depending upon the camera, and be easier to use than MLU.

Live View also can be used for precision focus if it's possible to magnify, another feature of many cameras. Some DSLRs also have focus assist features in Live View, such as Focus Peaking.

Yeah, mirror lockup is especially important with medium format cameras. Every time someone mentions mirror shake blur problems I think of the original Pentax 6x7, which was particularly notorious for mirror shake with it's very big, heavy 6x7cm mirror and didn't have mirror lockup. If I recall correctly it was possible to have the earlier camera modified to add MLU. The later, revised version of the camera (Pentax 67) had MLU.

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Dec 8, 2021 23:05:54   #
Photocraig
 
Locking up the mirror is no big deal. Easy way is to use the delay feature. Also live view where you compose and actuate the shutter using the back screen, the mirror is safely and quietly outa tha way!
C

PS: AND YES!!! Pro's use lock up for tripod based landscapes and detail shots and others as required. At every Workshop I've attended, they emphasized mirror vibration as a sharpness killer, especially at slow, like 1/20th.
C

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Dec 9, 2021 00:05:24   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Photocraig wrote:
Locking up the mirror is no big deal. Easy way is to use the delay feature. Also live view where you compose and actuate the shutter using the back screen, the mirror is safely and quietly outa tha way!
C

PS: AND YES!!! Pro's use lock up for tripod based landscapes and detail shots and others as required. At every Workshop I've attended, they emphasized mirror vibration as a sharpness killer, especially at slow, like 1/20th.
C


My question is why would you use 1/20th outdoors in daylight with a static subject (and especially at 105mm)? You shouldn’t need mirror lockup to get a sharp image at the proper SS. If it were shot at 1/125 and f8-f11, you’d be at a very reasonable ISO (even in the shade).

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Dec 9, 2021 00:23:34   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
TriX wrote:
My question is why would you use 1/20th outdoors in daylight with a static subject (and especially at 105mm)? You shouldn’t need mirror lockup to get a sharp image at the proper SS. If it were shot at 1/125 and f8-f11, you’d be at a very reasonable ISO (even in the shade).


Possibly because as with some photographers they are obsessed with shooting at base ISO.

I actually set up a simulation of the shot today with similar rock on grass, 1pm, 25ft, f/8, 1/25s, 105mm, tripod, surprising what an apparent shallow dof when taken from a sitting position.

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Dec 9, 2021 00:47:53   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When I download and look at your first image in Capture NX-D, there are no active focus points. It's also shot at 1/20 sec at a 105mm focal length. This raises several questions:

1. How are you focusing? Why are there no active focus points?
1a. The image reports Affinity Photo, possibly this software has suppressed the AF information in the EXIF. We need an original version of the image, not using Affinity. Be sure to store the unprocessed JPEG attachment.
2. Was this image captured on a tripod or handheld?
3. You say AF-S. Does the camera beep a focus confirmation? If beep off, do you half-press the shutter for a second or so and allow the camera to focus?
4. Are you using selective focus with a single AF point or group / zone? For this first image, where did you want to focus?
5. Given the first image is not anywhere near in-focus, are you using the camera / lens Auto Focus feature?
6. Have you considered the ideas presented as: How to obtain sharp images in digital photography

You don't need software to sharpen out of focus images. Please provide details for the questions and an original image direct from the camera, without the EXIF being suppressed / stripped.
When I download and look at your first image in Ca... (show quote)


Affinity does not suppress or strip the EXIF. If the EXIF cannot be read then the OP has used other software that has done so.

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Dec 9, 2021 01:05:28   #
mikee
 
Need it Simple wrote:
I'm almost totally a lurker on this site. Paul, Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge so willingly on this site!


Seconded.

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Dec 9, 2021 01:42:58   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
TriX wrote:
My question is why would you use 1/20th outdoors in daylight with a static subject (and especially at 105mm)? You shouldn’t need mirror lockup to get a sharp image at the proper SS. If it were shot at 1/125 and f8-f11, you’d be at a very reasonable ISO (even in the shade).


I don't typically walk around with a tripod when hiking or sightseeing. I take handheld shots, and even in bright sunlight, I set the ISO on my camera to 400 and sometimes higher. I can shoot at 1/1000 sec and f/8-f/11. The combination of fast shutter speed and depth of field results in razor sharp pictures of my surroundings. I can make adjustments if I want to take a portrait of someone and blur the background, but for handheld "landscapes", the higher ISO helps rather than hurts the results. It is very difficult to see any difference between base ISO and 400 and even higher on the camera I've used for the past 6 years (Nikon D810).

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Dec 9, 2021 05:54:59   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
Faster shutter speed and good depth of field gives a good photo. Just good common sense. Mirror slap and a tripod is a mute point with these settings. These new cameras handle higher iso. Keep it simple!

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Dec 9, 2021 08:09:37   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
Faster shutter speed and good depth of field gives a good photo. Just good common sense. Mirror slap and a tripod is a mute point with these settings. These new cameras handle higher iso. Keep it simple!


Mirror slap is always possible - but don't forget shutter shock is also possible. Especially with Copal shutters! As I understand it, Panasonic have now ditched Copal shutters.

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