abc1234
Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
This has nothing to do with film versus digital.
If you want to do photojournalism, I agree with you. Thou shalt not manipulate. However, for any other form of photography, the photographer is free to do how little or how much he or she cares to do.
Film and digital are the same from the artistic standpoint. The tools happen to be different. I started in the darkroom in 1959 and ended around 2006. Furthermore, I am a chemist. As much as I liked darkroom work and as valuable it is to taught you to learn and burnish your artistic outlook, digital has film beat totally. This is just not the speed and ease of manipulation but also for the precise control of the image.
I love traditional photography and have many cherished prints from that era. However, I do not look back because digital is so far superior. In fact, if you want to buy darkroom equipment, I have some left. My biggest complaint about digital: you shoot so many more pictures.
So, not long live film and chemicals but rather rest in peace. And thank you for having improved the world.
bobmielke wrote:
"Photography purists generally scoff at Photoshop users because they don't know how to use Photoshop"... Scott Kelby on "The Grid"
Ansel Adams, world famous landscape photographer, carried glass plate negatives containing cloudy skies to add to his photos with a blank sky.
Art Wolf, "Travels to the Edge" on PBS, clones out herd animals in his wildlife shots if they are distracting.
I think every photograph ever taken has been "manipulated" in one form or another.
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Yep, its the end result that matters and the feelings they engender. I wonder if the great artists of long ago would scoff at the whole photography thing to begin with saying if you don't use brushed and paint to create it you're a cheap imitator or if they would embrace the new tools of art and welcome the new artists into the realms of artisans the same way they would a sculptor or architect. those who do not work with change will get left behind by it.
Wait! Don't clear out your hard-drive!! You have some very good elements here. I don't know if you have any photo software yet, but when you do, these great shots only need a little tweeking.
Of course, the idea is to take the perfect shot every time, but we know that's impossible for most of us. :-) So save the most interesting ones (or hardest to get - I still don't have a hummingbird!!) and work on them later. I did a quick fix on two: cropped away some background so your subject takes up more of your picture, and cloned away the green stem and distracting whiteness. I like the colors in the rose shot, but the petals are faded and brown, and there's nothing you can do for that. Only shoot pristine flower heads for really great florals. Have fun and keep shooting. It gets better all the time!!
Your photos are beautiful.
I would like to ask to to try a couple things. On the first photo, crop out the empty space on the right (almost all black so you won't lose anything important), and about a quarter of the photo on the left. Give the photo a vertical orientation. The butterfly will really pop out at you now. Then crop some of the empty space on the left off the hummingbird photo.
I hope that you try these ideas to see how they work. If they don't, then nothing lost. Just be sure to do it on copies and not the originals. :-)
Good luck!
bobmielke wrote:
"Photography purists generally scoff at Photoshop users because they don't know how to use Photoshop"... Scott Kelby on "The Grid"
Ansel Adams, world famous landscape photographer, carried glass plate negatives containing cloudy skies to add to his photos with a blank sky.
Art Wolf, "Travels to the Edge" on PBS, clones out herd animals in his wildlife shots if they are distracting.
I think every photograph ever taken has been "manipulated" in one form or another.
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Thank you for this reply! It really sums up for me the difference between a snapshot and a photograph. Or perhaps I'm just not that much of a "naturalist"----after all, I dye my hair, wear makeup and paint my nails!!
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SnapHappy wrote:
bobmielke wrote:
"Photography purists generally scoff at Photoshop users because they don't know how to use Photoshop"... Scott Kelby on "The Grid"
Ansel Adams, world famous landscape photographer, carried glass plate negatives containing cloudy skies to add to his photos with a blank sky.
Art Wolf, "Travels to the Edge" on PBS, clones out herd animals in his wildlife shots if they are distracting.
I think every photograph ever taken has been "manipulated" in one form or another.
"Photography purists generally scoff at Photo... (
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Thank you for this reply! It really sums up for me the difference between a snapshot and a photograph. Or perhaps I'm just not that much of a "naturalist"----after all, I dye my hair, wear makeup and paint my nails!!
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And when you get to that special age you take your teeth out at night. LOL :)
Grandma
I like the Fairy Rose.
I would suggest try filling the frame with the Rose of your choice. A nice close up with a telephoto lense with a wide aperture will give you a lot of detail. Also try bracketing 1 stop up and 1 stop down. It may surprise you:-)
I hope that my suggestion helps :-)
may God Bless :-)
"The conventional wisdom about "natural" talent is a myth. The real path to great performance is a matter of choice"
talent is highly overrated..tenacity and hard work win ever time..just ask Chris Evert..even her own father said there were plenty of more talented people out there when she played..but none more tenacious!
liv2paddle wrote:
Lovely Rose!
The advantage of living 5 miles from the Portland Test Rose Garden? Thank you.
tainkc wrote:
I am being serious. I see such good pictures with good composition. Mine seem too technical. I kind of like the rose. I don't know. After viewing other photos on this forum, I am thinking of deleting my hard drive. I am not kidding.
Shucks man, while, like has been said, adjustments are always possible, your pics make me want to sell my camera... but to quote G. Bush I, "...not gonna do it!"
:)
gessman wrote:
tainkc wrote:
I am being serious. I see such good pictures with good composition. Mine seem too technical. I kind of like the rose. I don't know. After viewing other photos on this forum, I am thinking of deleting my hard drive. I am not kidding.
Shucks man, while, like has been said, adjustments are always possible, your pics make me want to sell my camera... but to quote G. Bush I, "...not gonna do it!"
:)
LOL Nothing radical please. I'm here to offer my help not try to catch jumping forum members. :0 Thanks for the compliment. For all those who think it's the camera:
Taken With My Leica P&S
Taken With My Leica P&S
Taken With My Nikon S550 P&S
bobmielke wrote:
gessman wrote:
tainkc wrote:
I am being serious. I see such good pictures with good composition. Mine seem too technical. I kind of like the rose. I don't know. After viewing other photos on this forum, I am thinking of deleting my hard drive. I am not kidding.
Shucks man, while, like has been said, adjustments are always possible, your pics make me want to sell my camera... but to quote G. Bush I, "...not gonna do it!"
:)
LOL Nothing radical please. I'm here to offer my help not try to catch jumping forum members. :0 Thanks for the compliment. For all those who think it's the camera:
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Okay, that's it. I'm jumpin' - right after lunch. But before I jump, do you remember those guys and gals in that CA cult that wanted to go out in the trail dust of the Hale Bopp Comet back in 1996? I got a shot of that with my ol' plastic Kodak Hawkeye on 626 film, hmmmm, or was that 126 and thanks to photoshop I was able... It doesn't matter, obviously Bob has solved the puzzle of what matters most, the photographer or the equipment. If it just weren't for that nagging question about "the eye of the beholder." Personally, I prefer my raggedy ol' comet shot to Bob's tulips...
Love your train shots and they rest too. Good shooting.
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