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Nov 29, 2021 10:20:04   #
Hip Coyote
 
tdozier3 wrote:
I've never had a problem with Adorama and will continue to do business with them.


Neither had the OP but seems circumstances have changed.

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Nov 29, 2021 10:46:42   #
tripsy76 Loc: Northshore, MA
 
I wish I had seen that before. I was operating under the assumption that they were still the same reputable company. I learned my lesson the hard way.


47greyfox wrote:
Anyone who has read the saga that Helen Oster experienced would not do business with Adorama, especially their used department. I did and I won’t.

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Nov 29, 2021 10:49:13   #
tripsy76 Loc: Northshore, MA
 
Thats why they recommended a “like-new” used X-T4. So they supposedly had it in stock when I purchased it.



jdub82 wrote:
This comment is in no way meant to excuse Adorama or any supplier of not being forthcoming about delays or not making good on their promises. However, it may be important for you to know that there have been recent supply chain issues with many new cameras, including the Fuji X-T4. All of the reputable online suppliers still list this camera as out of stock. That is assuming the X-T4 was supposed to be a new camera, not a used unit. In any case, the supplier should be able to provide information about any expected delays, and not leave the customer hanging without any response. I hope this issue is resolved soon for you, and that you get your gear or your money is refunded.
This comment is in no way meant to excuse Adorama ... (show quote)

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Nov 29, 2021 10:50:25   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
I had a bad experience with their used department some years back. They wouldn't give a price in advance. and offered a pittance for two boxes full of clean Nikon film gear I sent them. I refused and they returned it. One item, sold at a local camera store, brought more than their offer. Haven't done business with them since.

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Nov 29, 2021 10:58:21   #
tripsy76 Loc: Northshore, MA
 
Yeah they lowballed me a few thousand below what they told me they could potentially offer. I know that all the gear was in mint condition. The only reason I agreed was because they told me they could get me what I wanted in exchange which obviously didn’t turn out to be the case.
I’ve heard a bunch of instances like the one you describe from a few handfuls of people in the past month.


quixdraw wrote:
I had a bad experience with their used department some years back. They wouldn't give a price in advance. and offered a pittance for two boxes full of clean Nikon film gear I sent them. I refused and they returned it. One item, sold at a local camera store, brought more than their offer. Haven'd done business with them since.

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Nov 29, 2021 11:03:52   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
tripsy76 wrote:
I wish I had seen that before. I was operating under the assumption that they were still the same reputable company. I learned my lesson the hard way.


More on Adorama and Helen Oster....
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1508037

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Nov 29, 2021 11:17:56   #
tripsy76 Loc: Northshore, MA
 
That’s really too bad! They’ve replaced her with a bunch of people who all respond to you about the same topic with contradicting answers that now of which are helpful or even try to remedy the situation.

I even had an email come in saying they are waiting on the report from the shipper, just to be followed up with another email saying that they weren’t going to bother going to the shipper.

So to me, that’s obviously 1 of MANY red flags.

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Nov 29, 2021 11:26:56   #
tripsy76 Loc: Northshore, MA
 
Exactly, and like you mentioned, I’m just here to warn people to be careful so they don’t experience the same thing I’m going thru.

Hip Coyote wrote:
Neither had the OP but seems circumstances have changed.

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Nov 29, 2021 11:45:38   #
Hip Coyote
 
tripsy76 wrote:
Exactly, and like you mentioned, I’m just here to warn people to be careful so they don’t experience the same thing I’m going thru.


Your situation was fully described and therefore leads me to think they have problems. They need to account for this or else they can become a second "Abe's of Maine" store.

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Nov 29, 2021 12:11:04   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
HelenOster wrote:
So sorry to read that this has been your experience - The used department’s shenanigans was one of the reasons I left Adorama.
(The other was the spam mentality of the marketing team)

But it seems not everyone has noticed I no longer work there, as a kind soul sent a pm to let me know about this post!

Helen Oster
Social Media Manager for The Age Group


I have observed your helpful work for them over the years. Sorry you were mistreated by them. They have lost several employee lawsuits so I gather your experience isn’t unusual.

I see this happened over two years ago. Don’t know how I missed it!

My personal dealings with them have been fine. Perhaps one takeaway from the OP’s experience is to not confuse a supplier with multiple items at once.

One can see the conundrum a supplier is in if they have records saying something was sent including delivery verification and information that the package received was in good order. Escalation to management and ultimately a small claims suit might be in order here. Also starting claim through credit card.

Meanwhile I’ll file this for future reference and bias my purchases and sales elsewhere. But I’ll still check them and if they offer the best deal I’ll give them another chance. But I’ll take the lesson here and only do one item at a time.

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Nov 29, 2021 12:16:28   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
tripsy76 wrote:
Hello!
I just wanted to warn anyone who is considering purchasing from or selling to Adorama. I never received the camera, filter, or battery I purchased from them, and they don’t intend on doing anything to remedy the situation.

I sent an email inquiring about trading in my camera gear. This included a mint condition R6, RF28-70, RF 15-35, and RF 70-200 along with Gimbals, bags, microphones, etc. Received an email from Charles Lewy saying that they were interested in acquiring the gear. So I called (because they refuse to put anything in writing) then I asked what they think they could do, the person on the phone said the camera and lenses alone could easily be worth up to 8 or 9k.

They told me to send them all of my gear (in addition to the camera and lenses). Once they got the gear, they waited over a week, then they called back with an offer that was thousands of dollars lower they offered $6200 for everything.

I only agreed because the salesman that I spoke to over the phone Efraim Nussbaum said that they could put together a package containing the gear I wanted for that amount. We came to an agreement, and I was excited waiting for my new gear (Fujifilm system).

The first box was received and was huge. Inside of it was a single piece of bubble wrap, a battery charger, and a lens. There was also a packing slip stating that there was also supposed to be an X-t4, spare battery, and a VND filter. The box showed up in perfect condition and the tape hadn’t been messed with. I tried calling Efraim and left a couple of messages with people, I also emailed him asking for him to call me back (and now that the sale was done I was obviously not important to him). I've never heard back from him, and have since received generic emails saying that they are waiting for a shipper to get back to them, and then some security guy emails me weeks later saying that they never sent the search request? But I'm still getting emails saying to wait for the report from the shipper. So that tells me that they don't even talk to each other.

I had done plenty of business with them in the past, and have my company and clients that do business with them as well, so I figured it was a mistake and I called them. They said that they would look into it and to give them 2-3 days. Over a week later I had to call myself and they told me that they couldn’t find it at their warehouse and that they were going to file a shipping claim (even tho the box was fully intact minus the gear that was supposed to be in it).


So I am now out a Fuji X-T4, battery, and B+W VND filter which is just over $2000 dollars worth of gear (which is a devastating amount of money and or gear for me to lose). I just got an email stating that because the picture I sent showed that the box wasn’t damaged (as I had originally told them in the first place) they weren’t going to do anything to remedy my situation with the camera I never received.

I’ve been a customer of Adorama for years, and I have recommended them for production rentals, corporate purchases, as well as individuals. With the lack of respect, care, or concern they have for their clients, not only do I not feel comfortable recommending them, but I also, unfortunately, am not comfortable allowing Adorama to be used for rentals or purchases for any of my productions including work with other agencies and production houses. I can't risk spending a production budget renting from a company where if something doesn't show up the best they can say is "Sorry! Thank you for understanding". That's not just rude, but it's cold and truly unacceptible.

They seem to have no interest in seeing that their customers are really taken care of and happy. I truly wish they would help or do SOMETHING to fix this. I’d love to hear from anyone else who has had similar problems. I've spoken to a few people who have had similar problems in the past few months. I'm now looking into other options...

I’d recommend that no one does business with them if you don’t want to feel like I do.

I wish that after years of doing business I could recommend them, but it doesn’t seem that they care one way or the other. They don’t care that I never received what I purchased so I doubt they would care about you either.

I’ve never felt this taken advantage of ever. Please be careful if you’re going to spend your money with them in the future. I'm now out over $2000, and can't afford to buy a camera for the lenses that I now have. Worst customer service and experience of my life.

It's now been weeks and the sickening feeling hasn't gone away. I don't even care about the low ball trade amount, I just want the gear that I purchased. That's literally all I want! Please be careful, they aren’t the company that they used to be.

I’ve filed with the Better Business Bureau, and am in the process of sending all my info to the attorney general’s office. I’d rather not go thru all of this but it’s all I can do at this point.
Hello! br I just wanted to warn anyone who is cons... (show quote)


Thanks for the warning. Adorama who has many, many happy customers must not like you for some reason.

I now know if I ever do business with them to make sure to tell them I don't know you.

Rants like this aren't going to help you. Unless you are on the Attorney General's Christmas card list, you just wasted your time and their time.

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Nov 29, 2021 12:25:24   #
tripsy76 Loc: Northshore, MA
 
Thanks for the completely unhelpful comment. I also have never had an issue with them before. But if you want to take a little time to look around instead of adding unhelpful comments, you’ll see this is a frequent reoccurring issue in the last year.

You are welcome to ignore my posting if you want, as it’s just to warn people. And maybe nothing will come of it for me, but at least they are aware of it, and maybe it will help someone else.

Have a nice day!


Bill_de wrote:
Thanks for the warning. Adorama who has many, many happy customers must not like you for some reason.

I now know if I ever do business with them to make sure to tell them I don't know you.

Rants like this aren't going to help you. Unless you are on the Attorney General's Christmas card list, you just wasted your time and their time.

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Thanks for the warning. Adorama who has many, many... (show quote)

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Nov 29, 2021 12:26:14   #
Hip Coyote
 
I didn't see this as a rant. Unlike so many rants that are not defined or the OP had some sort of culpability, this was a well defined set of circumstances described by the OP. Others are pointing out some issues with the company as well. I have happily purchased from them but this is an issue that needs to be addressed. And it is an "artifact" meaning something you can either consider or not. I would hope that a rep from the company responds.

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Nov 29, 2021 12:31:32   #
tripsy76 Loc: Northshore, MA
 
Thank you! I have had many successful purchases from them in the past. This seems to be more recent from what I’m finding.

Hip Coyote wrote:
I didn't see this as a rant. Unlike so many rants that are not defined or the OP had some sort of culpability, this was a well defined set of circumstances described by the OP. Others are pointing out some issues with the company as well. I have happily purchased from them but this is an issue that needs to be addressed. And it is an "artifact" meaning something you can either consider or not. I would hope that a rep from the company responds.

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Nov 29, 2021 13:01:05   #
HelenOster Loc: New York
 
It wasn’t so much mistreatment- as failure by the new management team to recognise the job I was taken on to do, and failure to recognise that satisfied customers are pretty much the life blood of a business!

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