LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
machia wrote:
Representative government was actually designed to give everyone a voice in the election process. 👍
Actually, it wasn't.
Can you please point me to where the COTUS gives you a right to vote vote for the POTUS at all.
LWW wrote:
Actually, it wasn't.
Can you please point me to where the COTUS gives you a right to vote vote for the POTUS at all.
To rephrase what machia said, every vote counts!!! If only indirectly.
LWW wrote:
Actually, it wasn't.
Can you please point me to where the COTUS gives you a right to vote vote for the POTUS at all.
You are correct. The Constitution gives full control of how Electors are chosen to the individual States. They can select them any way they want to, and don't have to have a citizen vote to do it.
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
David in Dallas wrote:
You are correct. The Constitution gives full control of how Electors are chosen to the individual States. They can select them any way they want to, and don't have to have a citizen vote to do it.
And that honestly is a better system.
The electors were responsible to their state legislatures and the legislators were responsible to the people.
The bloat of government really took off when the senate was opened to the popular vote.
The COTUS intended that the house represent the interests and rights of the people, the senate represents the interests of the states and the president acts as an executive oversseeong ... loosely ... both.
Now we have devolved into two nearly identical legislative bodies and an executive who are chosen on the basis of who can most convincingly deceive the people.
Let's look at it this way. The next time we are in danger and have to activate the military draft, let's make every Congressional district have the same quota. That seems to be a fair way to do it as that is the way we elect our leaders. If we vote that way why can't we serve that way? We can bring those districts with 100,000 people down to parity with the districts with 10,000 people.
Congressional districts are supposed to have roughly the same number of inhabitants. That's why their boundaries are redrawn after every Census. Even the distribution of them among the states varies as the Census dictates.
David in Dallas wrote:
You are correct. The Constitution gives full control of how Electors are chosen to the individual States. They can select them any way they want to, and don't have to have a citizen vote to do it.
Until the Constitution was amended Senators were selected by state legislators in 1913. However about 29 states had changed it on their own before the Amendment.
Just like most of the states had given women the vote before the Constitution was amended to give it to women in every state.
HamB wrote:
Too many of our fellow Americans skipped Civics class.
That's because...they DON'T teach Civics classes anymore....they indoctrinate not educate....How many rioters "wrote" their congressmen for change? Professors and teachers...now "send-um out to the streets to carry signs/bricks/green lasers/frozen water bottles/Molotov cocktails"...to SEND a message...
tramsey wrote:
Yes, we all have to vote so the electoral college will know who to vote for just like the last election.
I think the electoral college is one of the relics of our government that is no longer needed and should be dismantled along with a few other things like time change
Sounds logical... BUT... If you look at a map of the US population, most of them live either on the east or west coasts. That leaves the rest of them country not represented. If you want New York, LA and Portland, Or to determine policy... I don't.
Nalle wrote:
One Man one Vote! (by by gop!)
Deleted, just realized this thread has aged beyond it's years. :)
LWW wrote:
And that honestly is a better system.
The electors were responsible to their state legislatures and the legislators were responsible to the people.
The bloat of government really took off when the senate was opened to the popular vote.
The COTUS intended that the house represent the interests and rights of the people, the senate represents the interests of the states and the president acts as an executive oversseeong ... loosely ... both.
Now we have devolved into two nearly identical legislative bodies and an executive who are chosen on the basis of who can most convincingly deceive the people.
And that honestly is a better system. br br The e... (
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That nasty ol' 17th Amendment.
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