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Nov 25, 2021 16:54:04   #
Jim Jensen
 
I learned years ago that the human eye is 55 mm; 58 mm. is possible, l guess. The first new camera I ever purchased was an Exacta VX with a 55 mm f-2 lens. That was in early 1952 in Wurzburg, Germany when I was in the Army then and there. I think there were many cameras in that era with 55 mm lenses and I think it was because it was the focal length of human eyes. You could look through the camera's viewfinder with one eye and see the same thing in the other open eye and the scene would not be different. The 55 mm answer was not from a photographer but from a scientist, I believe. Over my more than 70 years in photography I've subscribed to dozens of photo magazines and learned (and forgotten) much. This fact -- eyes are 55 mm focal length -- has stuck with me! -- Jim J.

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Nov 25, 2021 17:02:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Jim Jensen wrote:
I learned years ago that the human eye is 55 mm; 58 mm. is possible, l guess. The first new camera I ever purchased was an Exacta VX with a 55 mm f-2 lens. That was in early 1952 in Wurzburg, Germany when I was in the Army then and there. I think there were many cameras in that era with 55 mm lenses and I think it was because it was the focal length of human eyes. You could look through the camera's viewfinder with one eye and see the same thing in the other open eye and the scene would not be different. The 55 mm answer was not from a photographer but from a scientist, I believe. Over my more than 70 years in photography I've subscribed to dozens of photo magazines and learned (and forgotten) much. This fact -- eyes are 55 mm focal length -- has stuck with me! -- Jim J.
I learned years ago that the human eye is 55 mm; ... (show quote)

Well, someone is wrong....
The eye has a nominal focal length of approximately 17mm,[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_lens

Which should we continue to propagate further through the internet?

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Nov 25, 2021 17:16:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmalarz wrote:
The human eye has a nominal focal length of approximately 17mm.
--Bob


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Nov 25, 2021 19:30:37   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
The eye is 17mm 'normal';
43mm(≈50 is considered standard) is 'normal' for 35mm film (full frame digital);
75mm is 'normal' for 2-1/4 film;
150mm is 'normal' for 4x5;
300mm is 'normal' for 8x10.

It depends on the film/sensor size for "normal"!
Normal being similar to what the observer sees with his eye(s).

So I'll guess that the eye retina image area is smaller than 24x36mm, maybe like 15-18mm in diameter.

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Nov 26, 2021 10:43:03   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
The full frame 35mm camera is said that the 50mm is equal to a normal eye's vision.

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Nov 26, 2021 11:11:45   #
User ID
 
cmc4214 wrote:
Print the picture of the moon large enough to completely fill your field of view and still be able to focus your eyes on it. In other words your printed picture, or (monitor) is no where nearly as large as your field of view

Your post is self contradictory. It’s really impossible to enact your suggestion. But this is UHH where belief in the impossible is reason enough to spend at least a few thousand $$, so I took your suggestion and streamlined it just a little bit.

Cheaper, faster and easier to just grab a crayon and draw a circle on paper. Or just grab a large paper plate and stick it on the fridge with a magnet.

Acoarst a significant secondary benefit of the paper plate approach is that it’s truly infinitely more creative that shooting the actual lunar moon. You build the set, you control the lighting. You can’t do that with a subject 1/4 million miles beyond reach.

With the lunar moon it’s just “sunny day setting, press button, yawwwwwn”. What could ever be more boring than a never changing colorless subject in flat lighting that can only be seen from one angle ??? (Rhetorical question. Hogsters are clearly hard at work on that.)


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Nov 26, 2021 11:17:04   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
cmc4214 wrote:
Print the picture of the moon large enough to completely fill your field of view and still be able to focus your eyes on it. In other words your printed picture, or (monitor) is no where nearly as large as your field of view


Field of view and how far away a subject looks are two totally different things.

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Nov 26, 2021 12:07:18   #
User ID
 
Longshadow wrote:
Field of view and how far away a subject looks are two totally different things.

”it’s only a paper moon”


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Nov 26, 2021 12:31:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
User ID wrote:
”it’s only a paper moon”

I think it will do better as a movie.

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Nov 26, 2021 13:12:07   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
I think it will do better as a movie.
Was a popular song in the 1940s.

flashguy

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Nov 26, 2021 13:18:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
David in Dallas wrote:
Was a popular song in the 1940s.

flashguy


And a book...

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Nov 26, 2021 13:41:32   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
User ID wrote:
”it’s only a paper moon”


Nice

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Nov 26, 2021 15:02:42   #
pego101
 
Spiney wrote:
I thought I read a long time ago that on a 35mm camera a normal 50mm lens is included because it’s pretty much WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get). But I know this is definitely not true when it comes to objects like the moon. Is it some sort of perspective trick, or because our Eyes and Mind can concentrate on a single object out of a whole seen that to our eyes 👀 the full moon 🌕 looks relatively large. But when shot with anything less than a 2-300mm it’s a very small circle.

I’ve been photographing since the early 70’s and shot professionally for 20 years. I’m also an amateur astronomer. This just came to mind while watching the almost total lunar eclipse last week. Then tonight I watched a video from an accomplished Amateur astronomer & YouTube monitizer who decided to go simple and capture the eclipse on a FX Canon camera with a 110 2.8 lens. The moon 🌚 was pretty small.

So to sum it up ⬆️ is there truth to a 50mm being generally what we see? And what MM on an FX or DX I have DX gives you the moon 🌝 as our eyes 👀/ brain 🧠 perceives it. Thanks 🙏 in advance. Dave in PA.

BTW I do realize there’s a difference especially to our eyes if the moon is at the horizon or at ZENITH.
I thought I read a long time ago that on a 35mm ca... (show quote)


What's a MM lens? Model Mayhem lens?

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Nov 26, 2021 15:07:10   #
oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon
 
I suggest that no lens functions like the human visual system. Everything we “see” is interpreted by the occipital lobes in the back of the brain. For example, I am sitting here visually focused on the coffee cup about 18” in front of me. At the same time I am aware of visual input from left and right, without moving my eyes, spanning nearly 180 degrees. What lens produces the same visual experience?
Frank

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Nov 26, 2021 16:42:54   #
LeonardLeo Loc: Warren Michigan
 
So I see, said the blind man to the deaf mute.

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