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Nov 15, 2021 12:50:28   #
scuff
 
burkphoto wrote:
Custom white balance can help.

Fill flash can help.

Post processing with masking can help.

I know some folks who think using a Daylight WB all the time is smart, but I like my flesh tones accurate, even at the expense of ruining the scene balance. AWB is my least favorite white balance mode, because it is so variable.

Most of the time, on location, I'm using raw capture. Some will tell you that pre-setting a manual/custom white balance or any white balance is irrelevant when saving raw files, but I like a point of reference. I may dial in what I like in post, but having an accurate reference (target in the scene, or custom WB set at camera) is usually the fastest way to get to good.
Custom white balance can help. br br Fill flash c... (show quote)


I definitely need to learn how to white balance better. It's the thing I'm fixing most in post and it's such a pain! Auto is often all over the place. Ugh. This is pretty true, though. It was very blue out. It actually started sprinkling right after this. Cold, wet, and sundown.

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Nov 15, 2021 13:25:36   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
scuff wrote:
I definitely need to learn how to white balance better. It's the thing I'm fixing most in post and it's such a pain! Auto is often all over the place. Ugh. This is pretty true, though. It was very blue out. It actually started sprinkling right after this. Cold, wet, and sundown.


If you want to reduce the additional time and effort in post-processing as to white balance, you can make more precise adjustments in the camera as to a pre-set or custom white balance correction. This is important IF you require exact colour matching or want to neutralize any tint or, a colour bias that you find objectionable. In certain cases, however, a global correction of the entered scene or subject may destroy the mood or realism of the image. On overcast days, even to the eye, colours may seem more muted and colder and warming them up may spoil the mood.

In the attached image the white balance was set for "daylight" but it was a stormy day and the original rendition was cold- so I just left it as is to preserve the mood.



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Nov 15, 2021 13:53:38   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
scuff wrote:
What do you all typically do with people if you have a cool background? This was taken after/close to sundown on an overcast, cold day. I like how blue it is because we were definitely feeling it at this point. But, I don't want her to look sick. I warmed up her skin a bit. How does it look? What do you typically do in situations like this? I'm torn between thinking she won't match the environment and wanting her to look right.


Try Fuji...

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Nov 15, 2021 14:55:32   #
scuff
 
billnikon wrote:
First of all, you sure about sunset, usually, even on overcast, it is usually warmer than cooler colors.
Anyway, I digress.
What do I do in situations like this? I use my quick selection tool in photoshop and warm her up (with photoshop of course you dirty mined person).
Or, you can change the entire scene by using the temp. slider in photoshop, yes Virginia, it is that easy.


Please don't make jokes like that. This is a teenage girl getting her senior pictures.

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Nov 15, 2021 15:05:44   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
If you want to reduce the additional time and effort in post-processing as to white balance, you can make more precise adjustments in the camera as to a pre-set or custom white balance correction. This is important IF you require exact colour matching or want to neutralize any tint or, a colour bias that you find objectionable. In certain cases, however, a global correction of the entered scene or subject may destroy the mood or realism of the image. On overcast days, even to the eye, colours may seem more muted and colder and warming them up may spoil the mood.

In the attached image the white balance was set for "daylight" but it was a stormy day and the original rendition was cold- so I just left it as is to preserve the mood.
If you want to reduce the additional time and effo... (show quote)


Really eye-catching 🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️

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Nov 15, 2021 16:29:00   #
Dan' de Bourgogne
 
scuff wrote:
What do you all typically do with people if you have a cool background? This was taken after/close to sundown on an overcast, cold day. I like how blue it is because we were definitely feeling it at this point. But, I don't want her to look sick. I warmed up her skin a bit. How does it look? What do you typically do in situations like this? I'm torn between thinking she won't match the environment and wanting her to look right.


Yes, I also find this picture looks good with its slightly "icy/frozen" touch. Perhaps I would have let the model to sit in a warm car, just during the short time needed to set up quickly a lightstand+flash gelled 1/4 or 0,5CTO. I don't know another quick way to "warm up" an icy looking subject... Anyway, thanks for this interesting problem to solve and for this challenging picture!

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Nov 15, 2021 18:24:14   #
johnsnap1947 Loc: New Fairfield, CT
 
Definitely looks too bright. If you have Adobe PS select her face then adjust tone. I have the same problem with faces too red and thats what I use..

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Nov 15, 2021 19:51:32   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
scuff wrote:
What do you all typically do with people if you have a cool background? This was taken after/close to sundown on an overcast, cold day. I like how blue it is because we were definitely feeling it at this point. But, I don't want her to look sick. I warmed up her skin a bit. How does it look? What do you typically do in situations like this? I'm torn between thinking she won't match the environment and wanting her to look right.


Looks like a good shot to me, assuming that she is that un-tanned. The 1250 ISO is the defect for me. Zoom and the photograph really gets noisy.

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Nov 17, 2021 19:58:30   #
frangeo Loc: Texas
 
try a white balance.

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Nov 20, 2021 09:32:46   #
no12mo
 
Longshadow wrote:
Don't know what you're comparing it with, but she and the shot look good.



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