Vaccination troopers (Page 3): Vaccinated people are NOT less likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated lol, that's just silly.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

National Park wrote:

Since vaccinated people are much less likely to catch covid than unvaccinated people, and studies are starting to show that vaccinated people with breakthrough infections are less likely to infect others than the unvaccinated who are infected, it is fair to say that those who are unvaccinated are infecting far more people than those who are vaccinated.

Vaccinated people are NOT less likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated lol, that's just silly.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Racmanaz wrote:

Vaccinated people are NOT less likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated lol, that's just silly.

Actually that data show that it is true.
Less likely to become infected than the unvaccinated.
Also
If infected, shorter duration, less contagious, less severe illness, less likely to die.
Assuming immunity is maintained by getting booster(s) as needed.
Same thing likely applies to "natural" (meaning post-infection) immunity, including need for boosters.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Racmanaz wrote:

Vaccinated people are NOT less likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated lol, that's just silly.

Several studies indicate the opposite. For example:
"REACT study shows fully vaccinated are three times less likely to be infected"
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/react-study-shows-fully-vaccinated-are-three-times-less-likely-to-be-infected

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tramsey wrote:

Lucky you Get a vaccination before you get it a second time

With over 99% recovery its hardly luck.

chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA

David Martin wrote:

Actually that data show that it is true.
Less likely to become infected than the unvaccinated.
Also
If infected, shorter duration, less contagious, less severe illness, less likely to die.
Assuming immunity is maintained by getting booster(s) as needed.
Same thing likely applies to "natural" (meaning post-infection) immunity, including need for boosters.

I'm still waiting for the proof of less contagious

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

David Martin wrote:

Actually that data show that it is true.
Less likely to become infected than the unvaccinated.
Also
If infected, shorter duration, less contagious, less severe illness, less likely to die.
Assuming immunity is maintained by getting booster(s) as needed.
Same thing likely applies to "natural" (meaning post-infection) immunity, including need for boosters.

No data shows that vaccinated people are less likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated, thats just pure nonsense not supported by facts.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Racmanaz wrote:

No data shows that vaccinated people are less likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated, thats just pure nonsense not supported by facts.

You must not have done much research. Merely Googling "likelihood of breakthrough infection" got this from Johns Hopkins:

A study in Washington state gathered data from over 4 million fully vaccinated people. The data showed a rate of about 1 in 5,000 experienced a breakthrough infection between January 17 and August 21, 2021. More recently, some populations have shown breakthrough infection rates of approximately 1 in 100 fully vaccinated people.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/breakthrough-infections-coronavirus-after-vaccination

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Racmanaz wrote:

No data shows that vaccinated people are less likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated, thats just pure nonsense not supported by facts.

See my previous post:
Several studies indicate the opposite. For example:
"REACT study shows fully vaccinated are three times less likely to be infected"
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/react-study-shows-fully-vaccinated-are-three-times-less-likely-to-be-infected

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

JohnSwanda wrote:

You must not have done much research. Merely Googl... (show quote)

Vaccines do NOT protect anyone from catching the virus, it ONLY protects you from experiencing a catastrophic illness from the virus.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

David Martin wrote:

See my previous post:
Several studies indicate the opposite. For example:
"REACT study shows fully vaccinated are three times less likely to be infected"
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/react-study-shows-fully-vaccinated-are-three-times-less-likely-to-be-infected

What do they mean "infected"? Also, you are posting one study.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

chikid68 wrote:

I'm still waiting for the proof of less contagious

Read these, then we'll talk.

"Study: Those Vaccinated Who Get COVID Carry Less Virus"
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210702/study-says-vaccinated-people-who-get-covid-carry-less-virus

"Vaccinated people are less likely to spread Covid, new research finds"
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583

"Fully vaccinated people might not be as contagious as you think"
https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/23/22637699/fully-vaccinated-people-not-contagious-covid

"New Data on COVID-19 Transmission by Vaccinated Individuals"
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals

"No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People"
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/the-vaccinated-arent-just-as-likely-to-spread-covid/620161/

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

David Martin wrote:

Read these, then we'll talk. br br "Study: T... (show quote)

Makes sense and I agree with that, I know you weren't posting that for me. My point is that the vaccines don't protect anyone from contracting the virus.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Racmanaz wrote:

What do they mean "infected"?

Infected means the virus has invaded, is being reproduced, person develops positive PCR test for Covid, may or may not have symptoms, subsequently most - but not all - will develop antibodies against Covid

Racmanaz wrote:

Also, you are posting one study.

Well then here's another:
Fully Vaccinated Half As Likely To Catch Delta Covid Variant And Less Likely To Infect Others, Study Finds
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/08/04/fully-vaccinated-half-as-likely-to-catch-delta-covid-variant-and-less-likely-to-infect-others-study-finds/?sh=2e9aa3b9281c
But really I'm sure you are capable of searching for reputable sources should you desire more proof.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

Racmanaz wrote:

Makes sense and I agree with that, I know you weren't posting that for me. My point is that the vaccines don't protect anyone from contracting the virus.

In which case you are incorrect. See my other posts which include references indicating that the vaccinated are at lower risk of becoming infected than are the unvaccinated.

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

David Martin wrote:

Yes it can happen. Depends in part on how long ago you completed vaccination. Depending on your age and medical condition, immunity is much lower after 6 months.

It is also true that breakthrough infections in the vaccinated tend to be less severe, shorter in duration, shorter period of being contagious, and less life threatening.

There is no truth to what you've said, only speculation as with anything covid related.