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Oct 31, 2021 12:45:56   #
pdsilen Loc: Roswell, New Mexico
 
I throughly agree with you. I'm still using old school equipment and I don't see any need to spend hundreds of dollars to get similar results.

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Oct 31, 2021 12:54:48   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
While pondering this mind numbing post I first said to myself, “I don’t consider buying a new camera until I have mastered my current camera and find it lacking.” Then I realized I haven’t bought a single digital camera! Oops! Both digital cameras I have owned were surprise gifts. The D70s a Christmas gift and the D7100 a Father’s Day gift.

So I cannot offer an informed opinion on this matter. I don’t need a second opinion. Mine will do just fine!

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Oct 31, 2021 12:56:09   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
I'm still using my 8 year old 7d (original). I'd love an R5 but I'll wait till my 7d dies

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Oct 31, 2021 12:59:18   #
jtm1943
 
JD750 wrote:
I see a lot of what I call herd mentality. People craving the latest best equipment and everybody rushing this way and that way as new cameras are introduced. Perhaps its a result of marketing.

I guess it's good for manufacturers when people to buy the latest gear.

Quite honestly I could afford the latest gear but given what I shoot, I don't see how that will improve my photography. I know some people will gain from the latest greatest features, and that is good, but I'm not one of them. So I'll just sit back and enjoy the show.
I see a lot of what I call herd mentality. People... (show quote)


I rode that horse for a while. Then, a few years ago realized my pictures weren't getting any better, and I wasn't even using all the new - latest and greatest - features of the newest stuff. Now I just shoot with whatever works for me, and that includes a bunch of "oldies but goodies." I realized I was just "racing myself," and my bank account was A LOT less then it should/could be. Now I have a lot of cameras and lenses, but just what comes to hand and my favorites. Funny - They all seem to work fine and take good, sometimes great, pictures. I read all the new specs and reviews, but so far have not jumped back on that "horse." My bank account "thanks me."

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Oct 31, 2021 13:00:09   #
streetmarty Loc: Brockton, Ma
 
niteman3d wrote:
Moo! Where do I sign up for the next stampede? I've learned one precious lesson after being alive so long... it's a lot cheaper to be last in line (usually), so used and refurb make it possible for me to live in a time warp and I just tell myself that my 'new' D7100 is the hottest thing going right now. I treat current offerings like visions of the future. Getting $1500 cameras that have hardly been used for $500 makes me smile. I have 'past herd' mentality. I buy what used to be the latest and greatest and don't seem to notice the difference. DW calls me a cheap old ba$tard... I prefer the term frugal.
Moo! Where do I sign up for the next stampede? I... (show quote)


Excellent!! 👍

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Oct 31, 2021 13:01:12   #
User ID
 
pdsilen wrote:
I throughly agree with you. I'm still using old school equipment and I don't see any need to spend hundreds of dollars to get similar results.

Having spent the hundreds to get the same results, I’m hugely pleased with that decision. Getting the same results really is terrific. Couldn’t ask for more.

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I don’t give a ratzazz whether viewers know or care that I now get the same results faster, easier, more reliably, in tougher circumstances, while carrying less weight. Ain’t none of their bidnez.

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Oct 31, 2021 13:04:24   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When I was just a little boy, my parents used to take me to the camera store. I wanted to see the cameras. Such amazing designs, such amazing lenses, such amazing prices. My father would buy a new camera every few years even though his pictures where never really very good. He was always reading the DXO sharpness charts and discussing the micron size of the pixels. His images were hardly ever in focus. After he passed I was going through his things. I fear he read on UHH that equipment is what matters most and as he grew older, he never could free himself from this thought.

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Oct 31, 2021 13:05:23   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
JD750 wrote:
I see a lot of what I call herd mentality. People craving the latest best equipment and everybody rushing this way and that way as new cameras are introduced. Perhaps its a result of marketing.

I guess it's good for manufacturers when people to buy the latest gear.

Quite honestly I could afford the latest gear but given what I shoot, I don't see how that will improve my photography. I know some people will gain from the latest greatest features, and that is good, but I'm not one of them. So I'll just sit back and enjoy the show.
I see a lot of what I call herd mentality. People... (show quote)


As I have written before...it all depends on where you are moving from. Four years ago I bought a D810 in preparation for a workshop I was planning to take the next year. My current camera at the time (with which I was very happy) was a D300. But there is no way that I could have done the things taught at the workshop with it (night sky photography). So it was truly an enabler for a whole new area of photography for me.

A little after the workshop, I decided that it would be very helpful to have a second camera body with capabilities similar to the D810. (I said helpful, not necessary.) After some careful looking and deciding, I decided to purchase a D850 instead of a second D810. (The D810 almost perfectly fulfilled my night sky needs.) I still have both of those cameras and use them both interchangeably. Properly set up and adjusted, you can't tell which image came from which camera. (I can tell that the D850's smaller sensor elements are a little bit favorable in rendering stars, but you would probably never notice.) I do like the new control layout on the D850 a little better, though.

So yes, there can be enabling benefit for some from the newer models. But sometimes it can really be overplayed. By the way...I still have and use my D300 also, as well as a D300s.

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Oct 31, 2021 13:06:43   #
RayE Loc: New Jersey
 
Who cares? Beat your chest and pat yourself on the back, no matter which herd you’re in. If your buyIng philosophies make you happy, good for you.

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Oct 31, 2021 13:11:37   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
My advice to novice photographers: Buy one camera and one lens. A mid-range zoom lens will do. Consider refurbished or used gear to start, to spend less in the beginning.

Use this camera and lens until you sense you have outgrown them, then upgrade. This point may take years to reach.

Keep in mind that mostly your camera skills (not gear) determine a worthy photograph.

Another piece of advice: Study composition for better results while doing photography.
User ID wrote:
Having spent the hundreds to get the same results, I’m hugely pleased with that decision.

I don’t give a ratzazz whether viewers know or care that I now get the same results faster, easier, more reliably, in tougher circumstances, while carrying less weight. It’s none of their bidnez.

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Oct 31, 2021 13:14:38   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
RayE wrote:
Who cares? Beat your chest and pat yourself on the back, no matter which herd you’re in. If your buyIng philosophies make you happy, good for you.


Thank you for your unkind and uninformed reply.

It clarifies that my decision to step away from this group a couple of months ago was the correct one.

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Oct 31, 2021 13:16:16   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
larryepage wrote:
Thank you for your unkind and uninformed reply.

It clarifies that my decision to step away from this group a couple of months ago was the correct one.


You say it over and over, but then never really leave.

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Oct 31, 2021 13:18:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
larryepage wrote:
Thank you for your unkind and uninformed reply.

It clarifies that my decision to step away from this group a couple of months ago was the correct one.


Awww ... Don't like his opinion?

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Oct 31, 2021 13:22:32   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Yes!

Had 2 Computer Clubs. Bleeding edge club bought all the latest iPhone iPad etc the day they came out.
Second Club was Tailing Edge. We would rebuild old computers, upgrade what we had, and LEARNED a lot!

Recently upgraded from several Kodak & Lumix point and shoot to a lightly used Nikon D3100 with 2 lenses.
Bought the set for less than a single lens. This was to allow me to re-use my Quantaray Lenses from my old Nikon F4004 Film Camera.

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Oct 31, 2021 13:22:44   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I find it helps here to ignore and not to feed the trolls.
larryepage wrote:
Thank you for your unkind and uninformed reply.

It clarifies that my decision to step away from this group a couple of months ago was the correct one.

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