When is it finally all about the camera?
Oct 29, 2021 20:19:12 #
Turnings wrote:
We now have multiple choices of brushes, color mediums and canvases. Does this make the artist good or great. I think not. The development of the eye or imagination is a skill that takes practice, review & study to develop or master. The camera may help with exposure issues but the ability to envision is out of the hands of the equipment & thrust into the hands of the artist.
Look at the OP - that was acknowledged. A different issue discussed.
Oct 29, 2021 22:41:00 #
RodeoMan
Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
Charles 46277 wrote:
When the Internet started in the 1990's I became a... (show quote)
Also do not use your thumb to butter your bread.
Oct 29, 2021 23:21:23 #
This probably won't answer your question but I'm gonna say it anyway. I'll never be the kind of photographer I'd love to be because I stay too busy making pictures with brushes and paint to learn many things I need to know to be one, but here's how I look at that. A great photographer can make a decent picture with almost any camera, but make breathtaking pictures with better cameras. His talent for looking and actually SEEING is his blessing. He SEES the right angle, the right light, the right contrast and the right composition. A bad photographer can mess up even with the best cameras. I often give art lessons and I know there are two ways to be an artist...using your talent or using a learned skill. I think photographers are the same way and they are artists either way, by talent or by skill. I have seen artists AND photographers who are great with talent and bad with talent... great with skill and bad with skill. I also believe that no matter what you do in life, there will ALWAYS be some better at it than you and some worse than you. I say be the best you can be and enjoy it, while constantly striving to improve. Whatever works for you should make you happy. The reason for believing this way is that I started painting (horses mostly) when I was 4 years old. I got my first camera and my dad built me a darkroom when I was 10. I sell a lot of paintings and probably 1/4 as many photographs, so I know I should stick to painting, but horses, art and photography have filled my brain completely and I will continue to try to improve at each of those until my eyes close for the last time. GEE! I'm not gonna read what I just wrote. It might not make any sense at all!!!! I have an excuse for EVERYTHING... I'm OLD!
Oct 30, 2021 00:14:52 #
19104
Loc: Philadelphia
Ysarex wrote:
It's never been only about the photographer or onl... (show quote)
SO your saying that you cant shoot sports with a 4x5 speed graphic.
Oct 30, 2021 00:46:57 #
Oct 30, 2021 01:51:56 #
Horseart wrote:
.....A great photographer can make a decent picture with almost any camera, but make breathtaking pictures with better cameras.....
This post is the most complete answer to the OP's original question. At this point in time cameras have not become so "intelligent" that they know what to shoot, what is the best place to stand, how to frame the shot, what lighting to use etc etc.
In other words cameras still need us to decide the important stuff like the choice of subject, the composition, what mood or atmosphere to invoke, what aesthetics to invoke and so on.
To my mind the real merit of technically advanced cameras is determined by the extent to which they free the photographer from distractions, allowing him/her to concentrate on the stuff that really matters (see above).
Oh yes, I nearly forgot - there's also the question of image quality, which I would rate as highly desirable but not absolutely necessary.
It's also important to avoid the potential shot spoilers like motion blur, missed focus or insufficient depth of field, and that applies to both people and "intelligent" cameras. It seems to me that to replace us, cameras would have to be very clever indeed.
Oct 30, 2021 01:59:02 #
R.G. wrote:
This post is the most complete answer to the OP's original question.
It's also important to avoid the potential shot spoilers like motion blur, missed focus or insufficient depth of field, and that applies to both people and "intelligent" cameras. It seems to me that to replace us, cameras would have to be very clever indeed.
It's also important to avoid the potential shot spoilers like motion blur, missed focus or insufficient depth of field, and that applies to both people and "intelligent" cameras. It seems to me that to replace us, cameras would have to be very clever indeed.
Thank you RG for your kind comment about my post. I was afraid it would read like just so much silly old woman babble!
(I'm sure some will think so)
Oct 30, 2021 02:08:01 #
As a passing thought, many of the photos that we consider to be iconic have relatively poor image quality. So why do we consider them to be iconic? In most cases it's all about the storytelling, and as long as that's been effectively conveyed, the image quality is of minor importance.
When are we going to see cameras that "understand" storytelling? My guess is that it won't be any time soon.
When are we going to see cameras that "understand" storytelling? My guess is that it won't be any time soon.
Oct 30, 2021 02:08:57 #
Horseart wrote:
....I was afraid it would read like just so much silly old woman babble!
(I'm sure some will think so)
(I'm sure some will think so)
Not me
.Oct 30, 2021 02:36:19 #
Amen Jo, and as my dad used to tell me,"weigh everything in the light of eternity!"
Oct 30, 2021 07:27:53 #
Fotoartist wrote:
I've never seen any shots of birds in flight or the Milky Way by Ansel Adams or any of the old guys with their equipment. Why do you think that is? Could it be their equipment was not adequate?
Most likely, they were not interested...for a host of reasons.
Oct 30, 2021 07:31:09 #
Charles 46277 wrote:
We cannot expect much of a generation who grew up eating in the car. I was in a good-sized small town and asked about a nice place to eat, and all they mentioned were fast-food chains. When I suggested table cloths, they were at a loss.
After all, you can't eat tablecloths!
Oct 30, 2021 07:52:25 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
quixdraw wrote:
I have been a serious photography enthusiast for b... (show quote)
The camera has never made the photographer, but many photographers have made the camera. I am sure, even at age 12, you knew this.
Oct 30, 2021 07:56:33 #
We each have three tools at our disposal: desire, effort and a camera. Shouldn't you buy the best camera?
Oct 30, 2021 08:19:30 #
cmc4214
Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
One who has a good eye, but poor technical skills could benefit greatly from technology (maybe even turn an ok photographer into a good one) without the years of experience to learn and improve his technical skills.
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