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Selling image files
Oct 18, 2021 12:12:56 #
Oct 18, 2021 13:08:08 #
"...I wouldn't sell the image. I'd lease it. Also, specify the end usage... Thank you Bob for again bringing clarity to the dance. Good to see commercial shooters on UHH...
suertudo I no longer "market: images... Only my "professional services" as a commercial photographer.
I have a Day Rate which is not negotiable... only the parameters of an assignment are on the table for negotiation.
btw, I've assisted so many high end commercial shooters in my market and this is by far the paradigm they prefer.
It's all about a Signed Contract where each party agrees on terms; conditions; deliverables etc. (acceptance)
If you stay the course in time you'll discover why this has become the de facto standard in our industry.
btw, Congrats on your rite of passage into the thrilling world of commercial photography...
Wishing you much joy and success on your epic journey here.
suertudo I no longer "market: images... Only my "professional services" as a commercial photographer.
I have a Day Rate which is not negotiable... only the parameters of an assignment are on the table for negotiation.
btw, I've assisted so many high end commercial shooters in my market and this is by far the paradigm they prefer.
It's all about a Signed Contract where each party agrees on terms; conditions; deliverables etc. (acceptance)
If you stay the course in time you'll discover why this has become the de facto standard in our industry.
btw, Congrats on your rite of passage into the thrilling world of commercial photography...
Wishing you much joy and success on your epic journey here.
Oct 18, 2021 13:16:51 #
I agree with spell out who owns the image and what they can use it for. When you sell to stock you can retain full ownership of the image and still submit to other agencies or contests. The stock prices are very low usually from pocket change and goes up from there. You get about 33% of what the client pays. The way you make money here is by volume sales. What they pay depends on the package they pick. I am on Adobe Stock, Shutter Stock, Dreams time and Big Stock. You should check your local places like galleries to get an idea also. Good luck and remember a sold picture is a step up.
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Oct 18, 2021 19:29:41 #
Oct 18, 2021 19:31:00 #
Oct 19, 2021 10:12:06 #
Which party retains copyright in this transaction?
CHG_CANON wrote:
How will it be used? What file format do they want? Two easy numbers: full-resolution and fully-edited (by you) for a JPEG for $100 per image file. Original RAW: $450. These would be on the lower end of purchasing files from a stock service, should the customer be seeking to low-ball an individual instead using a formal stock service. Be sure to receive payment before releasing the files, something all / any stock service would require.
Oct 19, 2021 10:12:09 #
suertudo wrote:
I'm being asked to sell someone an image file to print ... I have no idea what to charge ... can anyone offer some help ?
Thank you
Tom
Thank you
Tom
Sell, lease or license? The differences in terminology are important. They determine such things as whether you retain the right to use the image yourself, how the image may be used by the purchaser/lessee/licensee and who owns the copyright. I'm not a lawyer, so you should do a search on "lease vs. license" or for starters take a look at https://www.upcounsel.com/difference-between-lease-and-licence
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Oct 19, 2021 10:21:52 #
TomHackett wrote:
Sell, lease or license? The differences in terminology are important. They determine such things as whether you retain the right to use the image yourself, how the image may be used by the purchaser/lessee/licensee and who owns the copyright. I'm not a lawyer, so you should do a search on "lease vs. license" or for starters take a look at https://www.upcounsel.com/difference-between-lease-and-licence
Thanks ... very helpful... am so glad I asked this forum...
Oct 19, 2021 13:08:43 #
anotherview wrote:
Which party retains copyright in this transaction?
Whoever properly registered it with the local Copyright processing jurisdiction.
Oct 19, 2021 13:21:08 #
Oct 19, 2021 14:15:06 #
suertudo wrote:
Ok! I'm off to track down that local body
"Local" generally means individual country. For the US, start at https://www.copyright.gov/registration/.
Generally, you "own" the copyright from the moment you press the shutter, unless you were paid to take it ("work for hire"). In the U.S., you (or your estate) own the copyright until 75 years after your death. This all assumes you have not transferred your rights to someone else.
Good luck getting paid, however, if you don't register it before publication or within three months after. Chances are no lawyer will represent you if you sue for copyright infringement without registering it.
Oct 19, 2021 19:30:07 #
suertudo wrote:
I'm being asked to sell someone an image file to print ... I have no idea what to charge ... can anyone offer some help ?
Thank you
Tom
Thank you
Tom
Up till a few years back, I shot a lot of sports photography.
If individuals asked to purchase the image file, I offered a hi-res jpeg for $150 with the understanding that they could print solely for non commercial use and no allowance for sharing the file.
If publishers requested image files, I offered the same hi-res jpeg for $35, with the promise of future orders. They were sold as single use only.
I received many future orders from most publishers over a 5 year period.
I made many more publication sales over the years than I did with Individual sales.
Bottom line is, charge whatever the market will bear, with future sales and reputation in mind
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