Lithium Batteries and Fire
Oct 15, 2021 10:31:38 #
I watch "The Backyard Scientist" on YouTube occasionally. He's a college student in FL who does ridiculous experiments in his backyard. He usually wears shorts and a short-sleeve shirt for somewhat dangerous experiments. I don't know how he can get away with all the smoke and noise he makes in his neighborhood.
Anyway, he played around with lithium batteries in one video. While taking one apart, it exploded into flames. He got another explosion later in the video. This isn't a little smoldering and smoking. It's explosive flames. I hope someone develops a powerful safe battery soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNXmhNnLK8
Anyway, he played around with lithium batteries in one video. While taking one apart, it exploded into flames. He got another explosion later in the video. This isn't a little smoldering and smoking. It's explosive flames. I hope someone develops a powerful safe battery soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNXmhNnLK8
Oct 15, 2021 10:41:38 #
One of my neighbors was charging one of those portable batteries with a generic charger. It went on fire in his garage. The fie department, didn’t put it fully out apparently, and an hour or so later, it started up again and burned his house down.
Oct 15, 2021 10:49:21 #
jerryc41 wrote:
It's explosive flames. I hope someone develops a powerful safe battery soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNXmhNnLK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNXmhNnLK8
Due to physics, powerful and safe don’t usually fit comfortably in the same sentence.
But we can keep trying.
Oct 15, 2021 11:12:45 #
There is a new style Li-ion battery being produced. It is the BYD blade battery. Look it up on google. Quite informative and interesting and reported as a much safer source of electricity for cars and perhaps other applications.
Oct 15, 2021 12:10:24 #
Oct 15, 2021 12:18:08 #
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
There is a new style Li-ion battery being produced. It is the BYD blade battery. Look it up on google. Quite informative and interesting and reported as a much safer source of electricity for cars and perhaps other applications.
Yeah, China has been making them for a couple of years. There's a video on YouTube about them. The new DeWalt battery uses flat batteries, so maybe they're copying the design. They're supposed to be smaller, lighter, and more powerful.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/dewalt-is-the-worlds-first-major-power-tool-brand-to-use-pouch-cell-batteries-designed-for-the-construction-industry-marking-a-new-era-of-cordless-power-tool-performance-301399585.html
BYD -
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=china+blade+battery
Oct 15, 2021 14:11:02 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Yeah, China has been making them for a couple of y... (show quote)
If you watch the video, sounds great. As a skeptic and pessimist, I will wait for the "real world" experience; from what I have read, they have just started to deliver vehicles that use this battery in very small numbers ( a couple thousand). And they chose to first sell these in Norway. If any readers were able to get one, would love to hear their experience!
https://electriccarsreport.com/2021/08/all-electric-byd-tang-suv-launched-in-norway/
Oct 15, 2021 16:54:52 #
Often issues arise when companies start to scale up, like Tesla's problems with their new batteries:
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-4680-battery-production-hell-details/
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-4680-battery-production-hell-details/
Oct 15, 2021 22:44:12 #
Oct 16, 2021 07:53:54 #
Higher end new golf carts are available with lithium batteries. I presume they are stored under a seat as are conventional batteries. Can you imagine the situation if those light off? Puts a whole new perspective to the term “hot seat”😳
Oct 16, 2021 08:03:15 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I watch "The Backyard Scientist" on YouT... (show quote)
Check out the Morris Illinois Lithium Battery Fire going green might take planning
Oct 16, 2021 08:30:33 #
Billbobboy42 wrote:
Higher end new golf carts are available with lithium batteries. I presume they are stored under a seat as are conventional batteries. Can you imagine the situation if those light off? Puts a whole new perspective to the term “hot seat”😳
I had a 1944 Jeep with the gas tank under the seat.
Oct 16, 2021 08:45:59 #
ddgm
Loc: Hamilton, Ontario & Fort Myers, FL
I had a 1964 Chev pickup that had the gas tank right behind the seat inside the cab!
Oct 16, 2021 08:59:12 #
ddgm wrote:
I had a 1964 Chev pickup that had the gas tank right behind the seat inside the cab!
I'd be concerned about fumes and smoking. Tanks weren't totally sealed like today's tanks.
Oct 16, 2021 09:00:41 #
Looks like the Chinese may have come up with a solution. The Blade battery doesn't use a liquid electrolyte which is apparently why normal lithium batteries leak and catch fire. Their battery weighs less, holds more energy, cools easier and even adds structural support to the frame. It's not an experimental technology, either, they have 10,000 cars on their roads with these batteries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxIoFNfEsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxIoFNfEsk
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