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Oct 9, 2021 10:09:35   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
idaholover wrote:
Ya, check out US compared to Afghanistan and we're sending money to the Taliban. Must be another Joe, Hunter and Xi deal.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-national-debt


Don’t lie our qualification on the humanitarian aid specifically states it is not to gob Taliban! Clearly stated in you previous threads link .

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Oct 9, 2021 10:12:59   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
idaholover wrote:
Ya, check out US compared to Afghanistan and we're sending money to the Taliban. Must be another Joe, Hunter and Xi deal.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-national-debt


What has that got to do with my post?

BTS still killing you.

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Oct 9, 2021 10:18:36   #
CWGordon
 
Frank T:
Well put

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Oct 9, 2021 10:22:29   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
DennyT wrote:
Don’t lie our qualification on the humanitarian aid specifically states it is not to gob Taliban! Clearly stated in you previous threads link .


Taliban have guns, ours actually, poor people have no guns, Taliban get money. You are illustrating this post title to a tee.

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Oct 9, 2021 10:34:20   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
idaholover wrote:
Taliban have guns, ours actually, poor people have no guns, Taliban get money. You are illustrating this post title to a tee.


Don’t lie the Taliban has guns and other weapon from the afghani forces.

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Oct 9, 2021 10:40:51   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Money is not much of an issue for the Taliban...

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Oct 9, 2021 11:11:56   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
DaveO wrote:
Money is not much of an issue for the Taliban...


Not sure about that . All overseas banking by previous afghani regimes have been frozen and blocked off to Taliban .

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/02/business/economy/afghanistan-taliban-financial-crisis.html

So they are turning to China .

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Oct 9, 2021 11:17:11   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DennyT wrote:
Not sure about that . All overseas banking by previous afghani regimes have been frozen and blocked off to Taliban .

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/02/business/economy/afghanistan-taliban-financial-crisis.html

So they are turning to China .


A little research should alleviate your doubt.

Money they get from China, Pakistan and Russia has been quite apparent as well and is part of their reputed well being.

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Oct 9, 2021 11:58:06   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
DaveO wrote:
A little research should alleviate your doubt.

Money they get from China, Pakistan and Russia has been quite apparent as well and is part of their reputed well being.


Is that money they will get or have gotten.?
I don’t think so .

Show me that research you speak of ..please


Thanks

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Oct 9, 2021 12:07:27   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DaveO wrote:
What has that got to do with my post?

BTS still killing you.


If only it were a bit quicker.

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Oct 9, 2021 12:24:20   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DennyT wrote:
Is that money they will get or have gotten.?
I don’t think so .

Show me that research you speak of ..please


Thanks


You obviously are two lazy to do a simple search even on a topic that is common knowledge for any who have followed anything pertaining to the Taliban. Please feel free to feel that you have won the point.

You have on numerous occasions used this cute little "provide me a link argument." I'll wager that if someone stated that millions of kids are starving that you'd likely demand names.

Oh,yeah, thanks.

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Oct 9, 2021 12:25:27   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
thom w wrote:
If only it were a bit quicker.




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Oct 9, 2021 12:31:48   #
Rose42
 
CWGordon wrote:
Frank T:
Well put


What was well put? If you would do everyone the simple courtesy of quote reply everyone would know what you’re referring to. But you continue to give everyone the finger.

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Oct 9, 2021 12:46:29   #
srg
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"T.S. Eliot wrote that the world ends "not with a bang but a whimper,” but I fear our great nation is careening toward a third manner of demise: descent into lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy.

How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb? Why is the news dominated by ridiculous controversies that should not be controversial at all? When did so many of our fellow citizens become full-blown nihilists who deny even the concept of objective reality? And how must this look to the rest of the world?

Read the headlines and try not to weep:
Our elected representatives in the U.S. Senate, which laughably calls itself “the world’s greatest deliberative body,” agreed Thursday not to wreck our economy and trigger a global recession — at least for a few weeks. Republicans had refused to raise the federal debt ceiling, or even to let Democrats do so quickly by simple majority vote. They relented only after needlessly unsettling an international financial system based on the U.S. dollar.

The frequent games of chicken that Congress plays over the debt ceiling are — to use a term of art I recall from Economics 101 — droolingly stupid. In the end, yes, we always agree to pay our obligations. But the credit rating of the planet’s greatest economic superpower has already been lowered because of this every-few-years ritual, and each time we stage the absurd melodrama, we risk a miscalculation that sends us over the fiscal cliff.
Today’s trench-warfare political tribalism makes that peril greater than ever. An intelligent and reasonable Congress would eliminate the debt ceiling once and for all. Our Congress is neither.

In other news, Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) was speaking to a crowd of Republicans at a country club in his home state Saturday when he tried, gently, to boost South Carolina’s relatively low rate of vaccination against the coronavirus. He began, “If you haven’t had the vaccine, you ought to think about getting it because if you’re my age — ”

“No!” yelled many in the crowd.
Graham retreated — “I didn’t tell you to get it; you ought to think about it” — and then defended his own decision to get vaccinated. But still the crowd shouted him down. Seriously, people?

Covid-19 is a highly infectious disease that has killed more than 700,000 Americans over the past 20 months. The Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines all but guarantee that recipients will not die from covid. I have, or had, an acquaintance who refused to get vaccinated, despite pleas from his adult children to protect himself. He got covid-19, and it killed him. Most of the deaths the nation has suffered during the current delta-variant wave of the disease — deaths of the unvaccinated — have been similarly needless and senseless.

Covid-19 is a bipartisan killer. In the tribal-political sense, the safe and effective vaccines are a bipartisan miracle, developed under the Republican Trump administration and largely distributed under the Democratic Biden administration. People in most of the rest of the world realize, however, that vaccination is not political at all; it is a matter of life and death, and also a matter of how soon — if ever — we get to resume our normal lives.

Why would people not protect their own health and save their own lives? How is this anything but just plain stupid?

We are having other fights that are, unlike vaccination, partisan and political — but equally divorced from demonstrable fact.

Conservatives in state legislatures across the country are pushing legislation to halt the teaching of “critical race theory” in public schools. I put the term in quotes because genuine critical race theory, a dry and esoteric set of ideas debated in obscure academic journals, is not actually being taught in those schools at all. What’s being taught instead — and squelched — is American history, which happens to include slavery, Jim Crow repression and structural racism.

I get it. The GOP has become the party of White racial grievance, and this battle against an imaginary enemy stirs the base. But the whole charade involves Republican officials — many of them educated at the nation’s top schools — betting that their constituents are too dumb to know they’re being lied to. So far, the bet is paying off.

And then, of course, there’s the whole “stolen election” farce, which led to the tragedy of Jan. 6. Every recount, every court case, every verifiable fact proves that Joe Biden fairly defeated Donald Trump. Yet a sizeable portion of the American electorate either can’t do basic arithmetic or doesn’t believe that one plus one always equals two.

How dumb can a nation get and still survive? Idiotically, we seem determined to find out.

Eugene Robinson--The Washington Post 10/08/2021
"T.S. Eliot wrote that the world ends "n... (show quote)


There were the Dark Ages time period, the Middle Ages, before that the Neolithic, Mesolithic etc. We are now into the "Stupid" age time period.

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Oct 9, 2021 12:50:55   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"T.S. Eliot wrote that the world ends "not with a bang but a whimper,” but I fear our great nation is careening toward a third manner of demise: descent into lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy.

How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb? Why is the news dominated by ridiculous controversies that should not be controversial at all? When did so many of our fellow citizens become full-blown nihilists who deny even the concept of objective reality? And how must this look to the rest of the world?

Read the headlines and try not to weep:
Our elected representatives in the U.S. Senate, which laughably calls itself “the world’s greatest deliberative body,” agreed Thursday not to wreck our economy and trigger a global recession — at least for a few weeks. Republicans had refused to raise the federal debt ceiling, or even to let Democrats do so quickly by simple majority vote. They relented only after needlessly unsettling an international financial system based on the U.S. dollar.

The frequent games of chicken that Congress plays over the debt ceiling are — to use a term of art I recall from Economics 101 — droolingly stupid. In the end, yes, we always agree to pay our obligations. But the credit rating of the planet’s greatest economic superpower has already been lowered because of this every-few-years ritual, and each time we stage the absurd melodrama, we risk a miscalculation that sends us over the fiscal cliff.
Today’s trench-warfare political tribalism makes that peril greater than ever. An intelligent and reasonable Congress would eliminate the debt ceiling once and for all. Our Congress is neither.

In other news, Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) was speaking to a crowd of Republicans at a country club in his home state Saturday when he tried, gently, to boost South Carolina’s relatively low rate of vaccination against the coronavirus. He began, “If you haven’t had the vaccine, you ought to think about getting it because if you’re my age — ”

“No!” yelled many in the crowd.
Graham retreated — “I didn’t tell you to get it; you ought to think about it” — and then defended his own decision to get vaccinated. But still the crowd shouted him down. Seriously, people?

Covid-19 is a highly infectious disease that has killed more than 700,000 Americans over the past 20 months. The Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines all but guarantee that recipients will not die from covid. I have, or had, an acquaintance who refused to get vaccinated, despite pleas from his adult children to protect himself. He got covid-19, and it killed him. Most of the deaths the nation has suffered during the current delta-variant wave of the disease — deaths of the unvaccinated — have been similarly needless and senseless.

Covid-19 is a bipartisan killer. In the tribal-political sense, the safe and effective vaccines are a bipartisan miracle, developed under the Republican Trump administration and largely distributed under the Democratic Biden administration. People in most of the rest of the world realize, however, that vaccination is not political at all; it is a matter of life and death, and also a matter of how soon — if ever — we get to resume our normal lives.

Why would people not protect their own health and save their own lives? How is this anything but just plain stupid?

We are having other fights that are, unlike vaccination, partisan and political — but equally divorced from demonstrable fact.

Conservatives in state legislatures across the country are pushing legislation to halt the teaching of “critical race theory” in public schools. I put the term in quotes because genuine critical race theory, a dry and esoteric set of ideas debated in obscure academic journals, is not actually being taught in those schools at all. What’s being taught instead — and squelched — is American history, which happens to include slavery, Jim Crow repression and structural racism.

I get it. The GOP has become the party of White racial grievance, and this battle against an imaginary enemy stirs the base. But the whole charade involves Republican officials — many of them educated at the nation’s top schools — betting that their constituents are too dumb to know they’re being lied to. So far, the bet is paying off.

And then, of course, there’s the whole “stolen election” farce, which led to the tragedy of Jan. 6. Every recount, every court case, every verifiable fact proves that Joe Biden fairly defeated Donald Trump. Yet a sizeable portion of the American electorate either can’t do basic arithmetic or doesn’t believe that one plus one always equals two.

How dumb can a nation get and still survive? Idiotically, we seem determined to find out.

Eugene Robinson--The Washington Post 10/08/2021
"T.S. Eliot wrote that the world ends "n... (show quote)


Told my grown kids the other day they were witnessing the downward slide of the United States into a 3rd world country and all the shit that goes with it. Sad to see in my lifetime.

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