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Oct 2, 2021 13:00:35   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I've done the expired film route, as well.
--Bob
CHG_CANON wrote:
I know, but I don't have the time, space, nor interest in developing. I've done enough scanning to know I want to pay people to do that too. My best 'cost saving' is to buy bulk lots of expired film for pennies on the roll.

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Oct 2, 2021 13:54:34   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
If it is my film that I have allowed to expire, well and good. It is paid for and I know how it has been stored. Otherwise, if I'm going to the trouble and expense of using film for fun, I can't see any advantage to buying expired film unless it is a special type which I might require than can't be had otherwise. Why pinch pennies and gamble with results.

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Oct 2, 2021 14:05:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
quixdraw wrote:
If it is my film that I have allowed to expire, well and good. It is paid for and I know how it has been stored. Otherwise, if I'm going to the trouble and expense of using film for fun, I can't see any advantage to buying expired film unless it is a special type which I might require than can't be had otherwise. Why pinch pennies and gamble with results.


Almost all my film posts are / include expired film. Granted, it is a gamble and I've received some bad rolls in larger lots, but mostly, I buy from people who've kept their film frozen or refrigerated and it just goes into my freezer upon receipt. You make some exposure adjustments (I adjust the ISO) for the age, especially for older color, and then shoot as normal. I track every roll on age and results and know what to expect from each for setting the usage parameters.

For me, film is just something different to do, emphasizing different aspects of the shooting and editing technique. I also want differences from digital, so the film that looks most like digital is the least interest to me. Expired color adds some 'wonkiness' that justifies the effort and experimentation.

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Oct 2, 2021 14:15:27   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I use expired films for fun projects and experiments. If it works, fine. If not, no big loss. It was fun either way.
--Bob
quixdraw wrote:
If it is my film that I have allowed to expire, well and good. It is paid for and I know how it has been stored. Otherwise, if I'm going to the trouble and expense of using film for fun, I can't see any advantage to buying expired film unless it is a special type which I might require than can't be had otherwise. Why pinch pennies and gamble with results.

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Oct 2, 2021 14:26:04   #
GerryER Loc: Virginia USA
 
Costs do not matter, if it is a hobby. When I have spare change, I spend it on my hobby. I love film photography and also like my digital stuff. Depending upon my mood, I pick whichever and go shoot pictures I have three film cameras loaded with different films (6 film cameras total) and grab whichever one I feel like playing with at the time. I send color film out for development for negatives only; I develop my own B&W. When I'm short on change, my film work slows down and my digital work picks up. Just have fun at what you enjoy. Counting every nickel you spend on a hobby takes the enjoyment out of it, IMO.

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Oct 3, 2021 05:30:39   #
Douglas Tharp Loc: Texas
 
For me film is a trip back to the 70’s and working in the darkroom. I am having a great time, but the cost is crazy. Film at $6.00 for a 36 exposure, and 8x 10 paper at close to dollar each adds up. Just taking a class, after it is over back to digital.

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Oct 3, 2021 07:25:26   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rmalarz wrote:
That "year two" cost will depend on the latest model to be released. Chasing that new equipment is the only way some will ever achieve their dreams of becoming a good photographer.
--Bob



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Oct 3, 2021 08:12:53   #
agillot
 
yes if you chose a pricey camera .a old film camera is not even the equivalent of a kit camera , like a D 3500 , at about $ 500 . so , be fair in your comparison . i can see the fun of doing film in B/W [ used to do it ]

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Oct 3, 2021 08:37:31   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
rmalarz wrote:
There is an active discussion, ongoing at the moment, regarding the cost of using film.

Since the advent of digital, my film photography has been strictly black and white only. It costs me approximately $0.15 per exposure to shoot and process 35mm film. If one wants to see how that equates to purchasing a digital camera, a Nikon D850, body only, is currently priced, on B and H, for $2,996.95. That equates to approximately 19,980 exposures using film.

In doing this cost analysis, I'm only considering consumables, film, developer, and fixer.
--Bob
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Was the film camera free? Lens too? Mail if you're not doing your own developing? Internegative when you want to enlarge, or scan for digital printing?
If you're only considering consumables, what is the cost of consumables with digital?
I choose digital most of the time, and when I go back to film, it's 6x6 or 6x4.5, to get resolution comparable to modern ff digital.

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Oct 3, 2021 09:01:23   #
BebuLamar
 
mikegreenwald wrote:
Was the film camera free? Lens too? Mail if you're not doing your own developing? Internegative when you want to enlarge, or scan for digital printing?
If you're only considering consumables, what is the cost of consumables with digital?
I choose digital most of the time, and when I go back to film, it's 6x6 or 6x4.5, to get resolution comparable to modern ff digital.


Film cameras and lenses are not free but I do have a bunch of them so it doesn't cost me anything to use them. So I only count the film and processing cost which is high for me because I shoot color. Can't even buy the chemicals any more. B&H won't ship them due to DOD rules. A large photo store in Dallas laugh at me when I asked to buy a roll of film. I still use film but it's getting much more difficult and costly compared to the 90's.

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Oct 3, 2021 09:37:00   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
rmalarz wrote:
There is an active discussion, ongoing at the moment, regarding the cost of using film.

Since the advent of digital, my film photography has been strictly black and white only. It costs me approximately $0.15 per exposure to shoot and process 35mm film. If one wants to see how that equates to purchasing a digital camera, a Nikon D850, body only, is currently priced, on B and H, for $2,996.95. That equates to approximately 19,980 exposures using film.

In doing this cost analysis, I'm only considering consumables, film, developer, and fixer.
--Bob
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And add the cost of a computer and associated software.

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Oct 3, 2021 09:39:31   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rmalarz wrote:
There is an active discussion, ongoing at the moment, regarding the cost of using film.

Since the advent of digital, my film photography has been strictly black and white only. It costs me approximately $0.15 per exposure to shoot and process 35mm film. If one wants to see how that equates to purchasing a digital camera, a Nikon D850, body only, is currently priced, on B and H, for $2,996.95. That equates to approximately 19,980 exposures using film.

In doing this cost analysis, I'm only considering consumables, film, developer, and fixer.
--Bob
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When looking at the prime criteria why people are choosing a digital camera over film I really doubt the cost of shooting film comes up. Most people that still shoot film also shoot digital. While I no longer shoot film I understand that the experience is different and people enjoy that experience. I resisted in the early days of digital because I loved the entire process of film. I’ve learned to love the entire process of digital. I really doubt the cost of shooting film ever comes into play when making the choice.

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Oct 3, 2021 09:43:28   #
BebuLamar
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
When looking at the prime criteria why people are choosing a digital camera over film I really doubt the cost of shooting film comes up. Most people that still shoot film also shoot digital. While I no longer shoot film I understand that the experience is different and people enjoy that experience. I resisted in the early days of digital because I loved the entire process of film. I’ve learned to love the entire process of digital. I really doubt the cost of shooting film ever comes into play when making the choice.
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The cost and the increasingly difficulty to get films and chemicals was the reason for me. It also about the one thing I hate is to buy mail order or online. I love to go to the store and buy my supplies. I can't no longer do that.

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Oct 3, 2021 09:52:19   #
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rmalarz wrote:
There is an active discussion, ongoing at the moment, regarding the cost of using film.

Since the advent of digital, my film photography has been strictly black and white only. It costs me approximately $0.15 per exposure to shoot and process 35mm film. If one wants to see how that equates to purchasing a digital camera, a Nikon D850, body only, is currently priced, on B and H, for $2,996.95. That equates to approximately 19,980 exposures using film.

In doing this cost analysis, I'm only considering consumables, film, developer, and fixer.
--Bob
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No problem. 20k clicks on a top shelf camera is negligible.

Your comparison is full of arbitrary false comparisons ... hard to believe you’re really unaware of that. IOW it’s quite meaningless, except to you. So it’s not worth sharing. Some users are shooting digital at zero to 2 cents per frame, but so what ?

My film costs were 30 to 60 cents per frame, and my digital camera didn’t cost even half of the price you posted. So my break even point is at under 5k clicks. Acoarst these are my figures and my usage. IOW just as meaningless as yours ... except to me. The only reason for posting such info is to provide some perspective.

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Oct 3, 2021 10:39:36   #
GAS496 Loc: Arizona
 
How about $6.50 per negative to blow your minds? That is the cost for one sheet of 8x10 HP5 developed. The next three weeks has me in Utah and New Mexico exclusively for taking photographs. I was getting all my film holders loaded last night and my wife asked if 40 sheets will be enough to last. I looked at her and quipped if I shoot all that film I am going to be disappointed with myself. So why tell this story? Because we all have different loves and methods for creating our art.

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