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Oct 1, 2021 08:24:05   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
nervous2 wrote:
I reclaimed my Nikon FTn from my daughter, along with 50mm (f1.4), 24mm, and 105mm lenses. Just got my first roll of film back from WalMart. It appears that I have much to relearn.


Including not having Walmart develop your film.

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Oct 1, 2021 08:27:29   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
nervous2 wrote:
I reclaimed my Nikon FTn from my daughter, along with 50mm (f1.4), 24mm, and 105mm lenses. Just got my first roll of film back from WalMart. It appears that I have much to relearn.


If you're going to spend the time and effort to shoot film, my attitude is you should also pay for a high resolution professional scan. I use North Coast Photography after changing over from the Darkroom, getting roughly 18MP scans per image. That pixel resolution (5035x3339) yields JPEGs fully editable in Lightroom, same as any DSLR image. The problem I've had with both shops, more so with the Darkroom before I changed, is the dust and occasional scratch in the scans that are tedious to remove via LR editing. I've done my own EPSON scans as well. I'd rather pay to have it done faster and better by the shop processing the film, even with the risk of needing to clean-up the occasional imperfections in those scans.

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Oct 1, 2021 08:52:23   #
richard74account
 
davpal wrote:
digital cameras are the best event that has occurred. buy film no cost of sending it to be developed gone
allowing me to take as many pictures i want yes adjusting camera to get the results i want yes to be able to see picture on camera so i can change it yes quality of picture taken with a 24 megapixel camera i am happy with it
no more chemicals etc that it takes to develop the film no expense to set up a darkroom.so moan and bitch all you want about the demise of film


As I have recently stated. I did mostly B&W darkroom work for several decades. Digital is supreme when it comes to color. I worked in a commercial lab for about four years and saw how the veteran color printers had to do several tests based on recommended filter pack information provided with each box of paper. All one needs to do
now is move sliders around to get the results you want. The one black and white film that I do not miss is Kodalith
graphic arts film. It was used for mainly creating halftones for print reproduction. However, special effects could be
done with it for making line tone prints. Making a continuous tone film look like a line drawing for example. The nasty aspect to this film was the developer, which was a two part formula. A and B. I think it was part B that was
Lye. If you didn't use gloves, just your bare hands, it would remove a layer of skin from your hands. Not good. Again
I have absolutely nothing against shooting with film. I still have too much of it in my freezer next to the DiGiorno pizzas,
:sm01

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Oct 1, 2021 09:19:59   #
GerryER Loc: Virginia USA
 
richard74account wrote:
As I have recently stated. I did mostly B&W darkroom work for several decades. Digital is supreme when it comes to color. I worked in a commercial lab for about four years and saw how the veteran color printers had to do several tests based on recommended filter pack information provided with each box of paper. All one needs to do
now is move sliders around to get the results you want. The one black and white film that I do not miss is Kodalith
graphic arts film. It was used for mainly creating halftones for print reproduction. However, special effects could be
done with it for making line tone prints. Making a continuous tone film look like a line drawing for example. The nasty aspect to this film was the developer, which was a two part formula. A and B. I think it was part B that was
Lye. If you didn't use gloves, just your bare hands, it would remove a layer of skin from your hands. Not good. Again
I have absolutely nothing against shooting with film. I still have too much of it in my freezer next to the DiGiorno pizzas,
:sm01
As I have recently stated. I did mostly B&W da... (show quote)


We used Kodalith when shooting hand-taped artwork for PC boards back in the day before Gerber files. I don't recall any major problems with the developing, but as "they" say, "Time wounds all heals."

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Oct 1, 2021 10:10:00   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
davpal wrote:
digital cameras are the best event that has occurred. buy film no cost of sending it to be developed gone
allowing me to take as many pictures i want yes adjusting camera to get the results i want yes to be able to see picture on camera so i can change it yes quality of picture taken with a 24 megapixel camera i am happy with it
no more chemicals etc that it takes to develop the film no expense to set up a darkroom.so moan and bitch all you want about the demise of film


Geez, It would really help if you would consider punctuation and capitalization in your rant. It is hard to believe that you ever graduated from H.S.

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Oct 1, 2021 10:13:58   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
BobHartung wrote:
Geez, It would really help if you would consider punctuation and capitalization in your rant. It is hard to believe that you ever graduated from H.S.


A wonderful Day 2 / page 4 contribution ...

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Oct 1, 2021 10:20:15   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A wonderful Day 2 / page 4 contribution ...


And a meaningless comment that is par for your ego.

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Oct 1, 2021 10:37:22   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
I view shooting film as a 'labor of love'. It fills a desire for those that do it. For those that develop their own film, it provides even more sense of accomplishment and it is an avenue of artistic adventure.

That said, it simply is not for me. I have shoeboxes full of old photos and although there are some that hold fond memories, the bulk of them are just now boxes of "who the heck is this?" and "why did I take a picture of so many squirrels and trees?" The digital world has helped manage the clutter and post-processing has helped salvage many of the shots that would otherwise have been one of those in the shoebox never to be seen.

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Oct 1, 2021 10:48:25   #
Hanson
 
Well said and I feel the same way.

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Oct 1, 2021 10:51:21   #
iamimdoc
 
davpal wrote:
digital cameras are the best event that has occurred. buy film no cost of sending it to be developed gone
allowing me to take as many pictures i want yes adjusting camera to get the results i want yes to be able to see picture on camera so i can change it yes quality of picture taken with a 24 megapixel camera i am happy with it
no more chemicals etc that it takes to develop the film no expense to set up a darkroom.so moan and bitch all you want about the demise of film




Sort of like Molly Blooms soliloquy… I like it..

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Oct 1, 2021 10:53:33   #
gwilliams6
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The only people shooting film in 2021 are fools, the idle rich and hipsters from Brooklyn.


Not true, again from you..

Some real artists are still using film for the look it gives. And Universities are still teaching film classes.

I taught a 35mm B&W film course at a state university, and the students were enthusiastic to delve into a different media . It caused some of them learning pains with the development process and all, and having to wait to see their images. But the discovery process of printing in the darkroom was a revelation that many enjoyed, once they got the hang of it.

Yes I love my digital cameras and all their advantages, but don't go knocking film for everyone.

Not everyone needs instant gratification . (But yes Polaroid and other instant cameras are back, and the instant film is available again)

Just remember, not all painters use the same brushes and paints to create their art. There is still room in this world for diversity in creativity and mediums in photography.

BTW, I still drive an old sports car and keep it in top shape, and it still delights .

Cheers

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Oct 1, 2021 10:53:54   #
gwilliams6
 
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Oct 1, 2021 11:00:54   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
davpal wrote:
digital cameras are the best event that has occurred. buy film no cost of sending it to be developed gone
allowing me to take as many pictures i want yes adjusting camera to get the results i want yes to be able to see picture on camera so i can change it yes quality of picture taken with a 24 megapixel camera i am happy with it
no more chemicals etc that it takes to develop the film no expense to set up a darkroom.so moan and bitch all you want about the demise of film


Maybe you would be interested in the Grammarly app??

..........or not... Nobody cares, I'm sure.

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Oct 1, 2021 11:03:03   #
Hanson
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Not true, again from you..

Some real artists are still using film for the look it gives. And Universities are still teaching film classes.

I taught a 35mm B&W film course at a state university, and the students were enthusiastic to delve into a different media . It caused some of them learning pains with the development process and all, and having to wait to see their images. But the discovery process of printing in the darkroom was a revelation that many enjoyed, once they got the hang of it.

Yes I love my digital cameras and all their advantages, but don't go knocking film for everyone.

Not everyone needs instant gratification .

Not all painters use the same brushes and paints to create their art. There is still room in this world for diversity in creativity and mediums.

Cheers
Not true, again from you.. br br Some real artis... (show quote)


Yes, universities here in Canada are still teaching film courses. Students are buying cheap film cameras and expensive film, learning and enjoying the whole processes. Yes, I am sure digital will be what they will do in their future careers, but at least they are exposed to film and may consider the learning as an asset.

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Oct 1, 2021 11:03:53   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
davpal wrote:
digital cameras are the best event that has occurred. buy film no cost of sending it to be developed gone
allowing me to take as many pictures i want yes adjusting camera to get the results i want yes to be able to see picture on camera so i can change it yes quality of picture taken with a 24 megapixel camera i am happy with it
no more chemicals etc that it takes to develop the film no expense to set up a darkroom.so moan and bitch all you want about the demise of film


Odd how there are so many young photography enthusiasts buying vintage film cameras. For them film is a new thing having been brought up on digital. The same thing has happened with audiophiles and LPs. Many are leaving digital music. Sorry, but just like styles of clothing, many things repeat.

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