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Sep 29, 2021 16:28:22   #
franbires
 
Mikey, first of all, I live in Pittsburgh but how crazy, I’m in Washougal for a couple of weeks. Anyhow, are you using the EF 100-400 II with your R5? If so, how is that working for you. I am also thinking about getting the R5 but as you probably know lenses are he’s to come by. Thanks, Fran

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Sep 29, 2021 16:42:53   #
bcrawf
 
tjkraemer1 wrote:
Good morning Mikey. I would be happy to discuss how I have my R5 set up and what I found that works best for me. Email me when you have time and we can discuss further.
tjkraemer1@gmail.com


Hey, folks, I'm sure others would be interested in seeing the set of settings R5 users are using. (This is certainly a fitting topic for a photo discussion site!)

Bob

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Sep 29, 2021 17:52:40   #
Paul B Loc: Auckland, New Zealand
 
Although it is the R5 in question, would these same rules/settings also be applicable to a Canon R6?

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Sep 29, 2021 18:30:12   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Arizona Art wrote:
Hi Mike,

Congrats on the R5 & RF800. I have been shooting birds with that combo since December 2020. It is a super combo to do just that.

Here are a few examples of BIF's with that combo:
https://flic.kr/p/2m4JgQx
https://flic.kr/p/2kLiNs1
https://flic.kr/p/2kBomo6
https://flic.kr/p/2khXB5J

The settings I use are:
I use dual back button focus. For BIF's, the AF-ON button is for Large Zone AF: Vertical (page 139 of the R5 manual). The astericks button next to it I use for Face Tracking / Eye Detect (page 137 of the R5 manual). I switch between them as the need arises. I have used each of those buttons for BIF photos and I do not see a difference.

But, there's more about quick selecting the AF Method. I have programmed the Quick Control Dial 1, on the back of the camera, to scroll thru the AF Methods so I can select which mode works best for a given situation. Then I use the back button focus (AF-ON) with the selected AF Method. This works excellent if I'm trying to point focus on a subject in a crowded environment (a single bird in a tree or bush).

Now, I have settled on these AF parameters. I get the best keeper rate for perched, swimming or flying birds using:
AF Menu 3, Servo AF Case 2. Tracking sensitivity -2, Accel / Decel 0. I did use Case 1 for thousands of photos and wasn't impressed so I switched to Case 2 and find that works much better.

Shutter speed is 1/4000 when I turn ON the camera (I set ALL of this up on Custom2 (C2) Mode). I use the lens ring to adjust shutter speed. I find best success when shooting at least 1/3200. I thought 1/2000 was OK but I get way more keepers at 1/4000.

I have now used eye detect for BIF photos as well as Large Zone AF: Vertical and both work well.

Stay a little in front of the bird when you view it thru the view finder. I don't photograph small birds in flight. It's too hard for me. Never had any success at it. I much prefer larger birds. Raptors like hawks, falcons and eagles are my faves. They are highly intelligent and will often circle around you to check you out. That's when you can get some awesome pics. Position yourself so that the sun will illuminate their face.

If you have anymore questions, just let me know. Glad to help.

I also use the 100-400 II with the R5 with an adapter, for wildlife picture and get superb results:
https://flic.kr/p/2kXD98i
https://flic.kr/p/2kXDLFR

Feel free to PM me with any questions. Glad to help.
Hi Mike, br br Congrats on the R5 & RF800. I... (show quote)


Amazing shots and tack sharp.
Thank you for sharing and providing the information.

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Sep 29, 2021 19:54:50   #
mikey12654 Loc: Vancouver, WA
 
Arizona Art wrote:
Hi Mikey, I usually shoot in shutter priority mode. Lately I have been also experimenting with Fv mode too.

For shutter, I use Elec. 1st -curtain. If I need high speed, I use Electronic shutter.

I use an UV[0] lens protective filter on all of my lenses.

Also, I encourage you to experiment with the SERVO AF modes 1, 2 and 3. See which modes give you better keeper rates. For instance try Case 2 with -2 tracking sensitivity and 0 Accel./decel tracking. I find that Case works real well too.
Hi Mikey, I usually shoot in shutter priority mod... (show quote)


For sure I'll have to experiment to see what works best for me, I confess that I don't know much about Elec. 1st curtain shooting and only a little about using the electronic shutter shooting, I've always shot using the mechanical shutter with my DSLR in the past. Like you, I have a protection filter on all my lenses but on some of the vids I've watched say they don't use them because they have an impact on image quality, I've never tested the IQ difference.
Also like you, I'm set up with Case 2 with track/sens at -2 but my accel/decel is at +1, I'll see how that goes. I've set up my Servo AF with 1,3 and also the wide horizontal zone AF....I'll see how that goes too. Thanks again Art!

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Sep 29, 2021 23:00:42   #
mikey12654 Loc: Vancouver, WA
 
franbires wrote:
Mikey, first of all, I live in Pittsburgh but how crazy, I’m in Washougal for a couple of weeks. Anyhow, are you using the EF 100-400 II with your R5? If so, how is that working for you. I am also thinking about getting the R5 but as you probably know lenses are he’s to come by. Thanks, Fran


Hi Fran, Before I forget, I just wanted to say that if you do buy the R5, consider buying from Canon's website because they also sell refurbished R5's for around $3510 instead paying full price for new. These cameras look and perform perfectly and have the same warranty as a brand new R5, I've done that before twice. Hope you'll get the R5, I'm glad I got mine and yes I'm using the EF 100-400 ii on my R5, it works as good or even better on it. I got my copy of that lens off of Craigslist for $1275 and a EF 16-35L f/4 IS lens for $650 from a pro switching to total mirrorless. I've noticed there are lots of people selling off their EF 100-400 ii lenses for around $1500 and maybe less on there, as you know it's an awesome lens and does well with the R5. I've only had my R5 for a few weeks and have yet to go out to the field with it looking for birds, I've been watching tons of vids and learning combined with test shots in the yard. I wish you luck!

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Sep 29, 2021 23:16:16   #
mikey12654 Loc: Vancouver, WA
 
mikey12654 wrote:
For sure I'll have to experiment to see what works best for me, I confess that I don't know much about Elec. 1st curtain shooting and only a little about using the electronic shutter shooting, I've always shot using the mechanical shutter with my DSLR in the past. Like you, I have a protection filter on all my lenses but on some of the vids I've watched say they don't use them because they have an impact on image quality, I've never tested the IQ difference.
Also like you, I'm set up with Case 2 with track/sens at -2 but my accel/decel is at +1, I'll see how that goes. I've set up my Servo AF with 1,3 and also the wide horizontal zone AF....I'll see how that goes too. Thanks again Art!
For sure I'll have to experiment to see what works... (show quote)


Hey Art, I just noticed the 101st Screaming Eagles, right-on! I too paid my dues 72-78 lol, thanks again Art!

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Sep 30, 2021 00:18:12   #
franbires
 
Thanks for your insight Mikey. Appreciate it. I would like to make the move since I primarily shoot wildlife and lots of birds. Fran

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Sep 30, 2021 21:21:24   #
mikey12654 Loc: Vancouver, WA
 
pithydoug wrote:
For BIF with the 100-400 EF I use manual shutter about 2000 and aperture 5.6 with Auto ISO. I have found with BIF the light can change during tracking so Auto ISO works best to keep up. I use eye focus and it works very well unless the background is very busy and then it can get lost. For convenience I use two Back Button focus' with one set specifically for birds and the other for landscape. Slight move of my finger to go from one to the other.


In a lot of the vids I watched, the majority of their SS settings were 1/2000 or higher with Auto ISO and used Manual mode, I'm really pleased with all the helpful replies I'm getting here...like yours, thanks!

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Sep 30, 2021 21:26:25   #
mikey12654 Loc: Vancouver, WA
 
billnikon wrote:
Here you go, free of charge. Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAH-T6ii5m0


Hi Bill, I'm gonna watch your YouTube link right now....thanks!!!

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Sep 30, 2021 22:05:15   #
mikey12654 Loc: Vancouver, WA
 
mikey12654 wrote:
Hi Bill, I'm gonna watch your YouTube link right now....thanks!!!


This is one of the previous vids I've seen already, I liked the way she explains everything!

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Sep 30, 2021 22:14:36   #
mikey12654 Loc: Vancouver, WA
 
franbires wrote:
Thanks for your insight Mikey. Appreciate it. I would like to make the move since I primarily shoot wildlife and lots of birds. Fran


If you do make the move, let me know what you think of the R5.

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Sep 30, 2021 23:31:25   #
franbires
 
Will do. We're in Washougal until October 12 and then driving back to Pennsylvania. I'll be thinking about this the way home. I'll keep in touch.

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Oct 1, 2021 00:28:54   #
mikey12654 Loc: Vancouver, WA
 
Sounds good Fran, take care!

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