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Sep 22, 2021 13:24:43   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
flip1948 wrote:
What is starting in LA?

Haven't you heard that Cali now has the lowest rate of infections in the country? I guess some of what they are doing is working in spite of you doing everything you can to bring those numbers up.


Now aren't those Christians something?

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Sep 22, 2021 13:37:00   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bazbo wrote:
I don't know that they are liars and neither do you, Neither of us can discern intent.For an excellent grammar scold, you sure do not know the meaning of some basic words.


And what words would those be, Bazbo?

As for me calling someone a liar surely you must agree that each case should be decided on its own merits. Some people are lying and some are not.

In the case of me being called a liar today because I made a mistake in my reply and then deleted the my post, do I not have the right to simply make a mistake because I am a Conservative? For some it seems not.

Dennis

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Sep 22, 2021 13:42:13   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bazbo wrote:
Quick addendum to my prior response to you. Some lies by public officials can be documented. The pentagon Papers for example. Or when Trump told the public that COVID was no worse than the flue but concurrently Woodward has him on tape saying just the opposite.

Pretty sure those were lies. Did you decry the Trump thing and I just missed it?


Check my past posts and you will find that even though I do support what President Trump has done FOR America, I do not subscribe to everything he says and to all of his actions. Did you ever read those posts? They were right there for all to see. Yet I have never once seen anyone on the Left be as honest about either Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden and so on as I have been about President Trump. Amazing, huh, that the Left cannot tell the truth.

Look at everything Biden has done since January. I cannot name one thing that was truly beneficial to America and can name several that actually hurt America, opening the border, shutting off the Keystone pipeline, the
Afghanistan withdrawal, making negative statements against President Trump's vaccine, to name a few. Not one of you has spoken out against any of these policies. Yet if it was President Trump you would be calling for impeachment. That is true and you know it. But you won't admit it. How anti American of you.

Dennis

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Sep 22, 2021 13:43:24   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
flip1948 wrote:
What is starting in LA?

Haven't you heard that Cali now has the lowest rate of infections in the country? I guess some of what they are doing is working in spite of you doing everything you can to bring those numbers up.


Look at what you posted. If all is going well in California then apparently what Soba is doing is all well and good. You just said it yourself.

Dennis

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Sep 22, 2021 13:43:39   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And what words would those be, Bazbo?

As for me calling someone a liar surely you must agree that each case should be decided on its own merits. Some people are lying and some are not.

In the case of me being called a liar today because I made a mistake in my reply and then deleted the my post, do I not have the right to simply make a mistake because I am a Conservative? For some it seems not.

Dennis


Look up the erd "lie" and get back to me. I am pretty sure your routine use of the word does not fall within the definition.

I will say that being called a liar for a mistake is wrong. But since this is the lingua franca of almost everything you post, you complaining about it when it hapens to you is almost comical.

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Sep 22, 2021 14:00:06   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Check my past posts and you will find that even though I do support what President Trump has done FOR America, I do not subscribe to everything he says and to all of his actions. Did you ever read those posts? They were right there for all to see. Yet I have never once seen anyone on the Left be as honest about either Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden and so on as I have been about President Trump. Amazing, huh, that the Left cannot tell the truth.

Look at everything Biden has done since January. I cannot name one thing that was truly beneficial to America and can name several that actually hurt America, opening the border, shutting off the Keystone pipeline, the
Afghanistan withdrawal, making negative statements against President Trump's vaccine, to name a few. Not one of you has spoken out against any of these policies. Yet if it was President Trump you would be calling for impeachment. That is true and you know it. But you won't admit it. How anti American of you.

Dennis
Check my past posts and you will find that even th... (show quote)

"I do not subscribe to everything he says and to all of his actions. Did you ever read those posts?"

Not quite the same thing as calling him out as a liar, is it?

"I have never once seen anyone on the Left be as honest about either Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden and so on as I have been about President Trump. Amazing, huh, that the Left cannot tell the truth."

No smoking gun in any of your examples (as in Pentagon Papers or Trumps lie bought on tape).
The only thing that might come close is Obama promising if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. That might have been a lie or maybe it was a mistake. Oh, and there is Clinton so I will give you that up to a point because his lie was a private matter and had nothing to do with the affairs of State (BTW, I supported his impeachment on the grounds of perjury--even in a personal matter)

If you believe otherwise, please provide evidence (as I have) of examples where it can be documented that any of these people believed in private just the opposite of what they said in public. Your say-so is not sufficient.

"Look at everything Biden has done since January. I cannot name one thing that was truly beneficial to America and can name several that actually hurt America"

That is an opinion based n policy disagreements and has nothing to do with deceit. Try to stay on topic.

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Sep 22, 2021 14:03:40   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bazbo wrote:
Look up the erd "lie" and get back to me. I am pretty sure your routine use of the word does not fall within the definition.

I will say that being called a liar for a mistake is wrong. But since this is the lingua franca of almost everything you post, you complaining about it when it hapens to you is almost comical.


Do you expect me to not stick up for myself. I will at every opportunity if necessary and if I think I am in the right. Don't you? Yet you seem to put a negative on it if I do. How cutesy of you.

Lie: To make an untrue statement with intent to deceive, to create a false or misleading impression.
So far, so good.

Dennis

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Sep 22, 2021 14:07:52   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Do you expect me to not stick up for myself. I will at every opportunity if necessary and if I think I am in the right. Don't you? Yet you seem to put a negative on it if I do. How cutesy of you.

Lie: To make an untrue statement with intent to deceive, to create a false or misleading impression.
So far, so good.

Dennis


Right. The part I have been repeating and you wish to ignore is "intent". On your own, you cannot discern intent and you have provided no documentation of intent.

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Sep 22, 2021 14:18:57   #
Bill 45
 
berchman wrote:
One person is in the hospital after a brawl broke out Thursday afternoon at a restaurant in Manhattan over the city’s vaccine mandate. The city is requiring that patrons show proof of vaccination before entering certain businesses, like restaurants. Businesses that fail to comply could face a $1000 fine.

According to local officials, a hostess at Carmine’s Italian Restaurant asked a group of people from Texas for vaccine proof before they were allowed to enter. The hostess was allegedly punched repeatedly and had her necklace broken, and staff and bystanders had to intervene to break up the melee. Three suspects were arrested and one unidentified person was taken to the hospital.

The hostess was allegedly punched repeatedly and had her necklace broken.
The incident sheds more light on the type of situations employees have been facing since the beginning of the pandemic. Last May, a Family Dollar store employee was shot and killed after asking a customer to put on a face mask. A November 2020 report from the nonprofit One Fair Wage found that 80 percent of restaurant workers reported a drop in tips when they attempted to enforce COVID-19 restrictions.

Unfortunately, the New York incident probably won’t be the last. As cities and local governments begin implementing vaccine requirements, these same staff who’ve been dealing with people refusing to wear masks will likely have to deal with those who try to bypass vaccine rules.

Meanwhile, New York City officials say they are working with restaurant staff to implement the requirements. “The city provided restaurants with conflict resolution training in recent weeks,” Mitch Schwartz, a spokesperson for Mayor Bill de Blasio said in a statement, “and we’ll continue doing everything we can to help them adjust to this program safely and smoothly.”
One person is in the hospital after a brawl broke ... (show quote)


Hell, I won't let people who are not vaccine on my property, keep moving Jack. As for what happen in New York City, when in New York City do what is law in New York City, don't like it don't go to New York City.

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Sep 22, 2021 15:20:46   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Do you expect me to not stick up for myself. I will at every opportunity if necessary and if I think I am in the right.

Dennis


It's never happened and never will happen.

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Sep 22, 2021 18:37:39   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Look at what you posted. If all is going well in California then apparently what Soba is doing is all well and good. You just said it yourself.

Dennis

You are either lying, dumb as a rock or we speak different languages as I said nothing of the sort.

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Sep 22, 2021 18:44:24   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
flip1948 wrote:
You are either lying, dumb as a rock or we speak different languages as I said nothing of the sort.


I'll go with all three.

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Sep 22, 2021 19:09:10   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bazbo wrote:
Right. The part I have been repeating and you wish to ignore is "intent". On your own, you cannot discern intent and you have provided no documentation of intent.


Repeating??? I believe you mentioned it once. That was enough for me. But how about giving some thought to the fact that I do have some common sense. You are ASSUMING I have not given that any thought. I do each time. Just in the past couple of days another member, FrankT has read my posts and then stated lies about my posts, saying I made comments I never made nor ever would. Now in my book that makes him a LIAR.

I am sure you are aware of others here in The Attic who call me a liar all the time. krackhead is one, dirt another and there are several others. When I ask them to point out the specific lie I told they are unable to do so. Again, that makes them a LIAR. Now would you agree to what I am saying OR will you pull the old lying corrupt Left Wing trick of, Well, I don't know, maybe this, maybe that. I would have to take a look?

Surely you are honest enough to agree that some people on the Left are LIARS.

Dennis

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Sep 22, 2021 19:11:49   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Repeating??? I believe you mentioned it once. That was enough for me. But how about giving some thought to the fact that I do have some common sense. You are ASSUMING I have not given that any thought. I do each time. Just in the past couple of days another member, FrankT has read my posts and then stated lies about my posts, saying I made comments I never made nor ever would. Now in my book that makes him a LIAR.

I am sure you are aware of others here in The Attic who call me a liar all the time. krackhead is one, dirt another and there are several others. When I ask them to point out the specific lie I told they are unable to do so. Again, that makes them a LIAR. Now would you agree to what I am saying OR will you pull the old lying corrupt Left Wing trick of, Well, I don't know, maybe this, maybe that. I would have to take a look?

Surely you are honest enough to agree that some people on the Left are LIARS.

Dennis
Repeating??? I believe you mentioned it once. Th... (show quote)


Your second sentence makes everything you say as being bogus. As usual.

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Sep 22, 2021 19:17:48   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
flip1948 wrote:
You are either lying, dumb as a rock or we speak different languages as I said nothing of the sort.


Pay attention now. This is important.

I just reread your post and then mine. You are correct and I apologize. I was looking at it from a different point of view, sort of a double negative. Again the fault is mine.

But you can keep your lying, dumb as a rock and speaking different languages to yourself and or stick it up your butt. I am neither of those two nor do we speak different languages.

Dennis

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