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Biden said that he was going to take care of this and end this "pandemic"......what happened?
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Sep 17, 2021 20:01:32   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
CWGordon wrote:
Stevie: You can defend the Qanon lady all you want, Hawley, too. Do your own homework.


He's somewhat limited. He swore the pandemic would take less than 500 lives. He was pretty adamant about it, then he disappeared from here for several months.

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Sep 17, 2021 20:05:37   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
He's somewhat limited. He swore the pandemic would take less than 500 lives. He was pretty adamant about it, then he disappeared from here for several months.


Yeah, and Fauci said that we should be more worried about the seasonal Flu..... Libs....

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Sep 17, 2021 20:07:25   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
hondo812 wrote:
Two words that mean everything in this matter.

Informed Consent

The Doctor/Physician provides the Information. The patient either grants or denies consent.

You, none of you reading this have a say in my medical care. You may have OPINIONS up the wazoo about it and you are entitled to those all day long. But at the end of the day the only medical choices you can direct are your own.


If you don't make certain choices you can find many doors closed to you. You (in this case you are a long ways away, so you is a collective you) don't have a right to put my health at risk. Quarantines have been used before. I'm not in a position to say that is the right action here, but it may be, and it has been in the past.

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Sep 17, 2021 20:09:26   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yeah, and Fauci said that we should be more worried about the seasonal Flu..... Libs....


For Steven to have made his claim at that time would have been understandable, but he clung to it.

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Sep 17, 2021 20:12:05   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
You are so pitiful.... Let's take a look at the post I called out....

"If you all would have cooperated, gotten your vaccines, worn masks to avoid giving disease to others, this mess would be over!"

You have no reason to say that, first off 76% of Americans have had at least one shot, we also have about 42 million confirmed cases of covid and probably more than double that that never were diagnosed, so according to Fauci's early statements and Biden's we should already be at herd immunity because of vaccinations and natural immunity, but that is not going to happen because international travel will continuously import new variants into our communities.



It is YOU who are to blame! The longer this hangs around the more and deadlier will be the variants. Simple Science. Oh, that’s right, you don’t believe in education, training, subject matter expertise, or what 99% of Doctors are saying. Rather than listen to experts, you’d rather listen to unqualified “nutjobs” on the Internet telling you to use Bleach, disinfectants, and the latest animal deworming agent. Unbelievable!

Really, I have to ask, who is the nut job here? Reading this it is hard to believe that you are an adult or even capable of cogent thought. Do you actually think that your fellow Americans are as stupid and brain dead as you characterized them to be here? You obviously watch too much MSNBC and read too many far left news sites.


Do what you want. Because you listen ONLY to bogus news sources and your buddies down at the Bowling Alley, you will never understand how you affect others when you won’t immunize with the vaccine. 99% of the people in the hospital with this disease are the unvaccinated.

Again, you are full of yourself and don't know what you are talking about, typical of those on the left..... -"COVID-19: 99% of hospital admissions were among those not fully vaccinated - Fox News. https://www.foxnews.com/health/covid-19-hospitalizations-nonvaccinated

Politicians are laughing at you. How much you bet they all have been vaccinated? You don’t want to believe your politicians? Great, what makes you think that those denying they have been vaccinated aren’t telling you a big lie?

Show us one politician who is not promoting and recommending that their constituents become vaccinated. You can't because there is no such leadership anywhere in the country.


All of your excuses are just that. They hold up not at all under scrutiny. How many people are dieing that have been vaccinated? How many are dieing that are unvaccinated? The costs of Insurance, the availability of hospital beds, etc. not to mention the overworking of dedicated medical personnel are all costs of your refusals to get vaccinated.

Thank you

You are just a scared little man that needs to be reminded that it is minorities lagging behind in vaccinations and in many areas hospital workers, to keep blaming republicans is quite ridiculous but your politicians and democrat media will keep pointing you in that direction. Your post reads as if written by a six year old throwing a tantrum.
You are so pitiful.... Let's take a look at the p... (show quote)


If every minority in the country refused to get vaccinated, I believe it would be fewer persons than the number of Republicans refusing. If I'm wrong, it's very close.

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Sep 17, 2021 20:23:30   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. Now tell me the lies that she has said. You notably failed to do so with Josh Hawley. We're still waiting for that..................


https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2021/02/03/what-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-has-said-about-conspiracy-theories-politifact/

Too lengthy to copy and paste.

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Sep 17, 2021 20:25:06   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Steven Seward wrote:
I'm not defending anybody. I don't even know who this lady is. I'm just asking you to explain what lies you are talking about. The burden of proof is on you when you call someone a liar. You can't expect me to go through all the effort of finding out if it is true or not when you are too lazy to provide evidence. Can you imagine a lawyer in court telling the jury to "go look up the evidence for yourself?"

To run away when asked for a specific example means that you really can't find one. You are turning out to be no different than all the other leftists who aren't capable of honest debate. All you want to do is vent your frustration and hurl insults against political people you don't like.
I'm not defending anybody. I don't even know who ... (show quote)


What rock have you been hiding under? If you have no idea who she is, you shouldn't be commenting on American politics at all without bringing yourself up to date.

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Sep 17, 2021 20:52:54   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
thom w wrote:
What rock have you been hiding under? If you have no idea who she is, you shouldn't be commenting on American politics at all without bringing yourself up to date.


My word they need to find out stuff! This woman is now an elected mainstream GOPer QAnon.

This from 2018.

https://www.vox.com/22256258/marjorie-taylor-greene-jewish-space-laser-anti-semitism-conspiracy-theories

Marjorie Taylor Greene’s space laser and the age-old problem of blaming the Jews
Why conspiracy theorists always end up pointing the finger at Jews — and why that’s a problem for the GOP.

https://www.vox.com/22256258/marjorie-taylor-greene-jewish-space-laser-anti-semitism-conspiracy-theories

By Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com Jan 30, 2021, 8:30am EST

Let’s get this out of the way: First-term Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s claim that the 2018 California wildfires were ignited by a space laser controlled by a corporate cabal, including the Rothschild banking firm, is objectively ridiculous. It’s okay to laugh about it.

Nor is this an isolated anti-Semitic incident for Greene. In December 2018, she shared a video on her Facebook page, which features a prominent British anti-Semite explaining that “Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation.” This is a conspiracy theory that seemingly motivated the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter’s rampage in October 2018, less than two months before Greene’s post. Despite concrete evidence that these ideas were endangering American Jews, Greene chose to spread them anyway.

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Sep 17, 2021 21:01:12   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2021/02/03/what-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-has-said-about-conspiracy-theories-politifact/

Too lengthy to copy and paste.


Hey smart guy, there are dems refusing the vaccination as well.... For example, latest numbers I have seen California has 57.53% of its population vaccinated, Florida is 55.57%, not a huge difference.... It is true that many southern states lag behind, but many of those states have significant minority populations many of which are vaccine hesitant, others live in very rural areas and don't come into contact with huge numbers of people...

Democrats need to come down off their high horses and just take care of themselves and stop worrying about what others are doing.

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Sep 17, 2021 22:45:27   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
thom w wrote:
https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2021/02/03/what-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-has-said-about-conspiracy-theories-politifact/

Too lengthy to copy and paste.

If that article is accurate, she sounds like one crazy woman who believes in a lot of nonsense. However, it never once mentions that she lied about anything. That was the whole point of C W's post - asserting that she was lying about something. I couldn't get the miserable guy to even give me a statement or anything that was one of the supposed lies. How am I supposed to believe him if he can't even identify one single lie? Maybe you can provide one.

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Sep 17, 2021 23:09:56   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Hey smart guy, there are dems refusing the vaccination as well.... For example, latest numbers I have seen California has 57.53% of its population vaccinated, Florida is 55.57%, not a huge difference.... It is true that many southern states lag behind, but many of those states have significant minority populations many of which are vaccine hesitant, others live in very rural areas and don't come into contact with huge numbers of people...

Democrats need to come down off their high horses and just take care of themselves and stop worrying about what others are doing.
Hey smart guy, there are dems refusing the vaccina... (show quote)

Black people are the demographic that has gotten the least percentage of vaccinations. I think Hispanics are second lowest, if I remember rightly. My guess is that it has nothing to do with a Tuskeegee experiment in the 1950's that took advantage of Black people. Most of them probably aren't even aware of that. I think that it is driven by inner-city Blacks who aren't very terrified about contracting the virus. Cleveland, where I live, is a majority Black city and has only 37% of residents vaccinated.

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Sep 19, 2021 00:28:29   #
CWGordon
 
Steven: all the righties on here constantly ask us to do their homework for them. The burden is on you, if you want to challenge my position. If you don’t that is ok, too. My experience is that no matter what I would write, it won’t matter, anyway.
Google her, or look at media other than Newsmax, OAN, QAnon, or Fox. I think you will have no trouble learning who she is and the outrageous things she says. It is easy and the stuff she says is, at minimum…
Good hunting.

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Sep 19, 2021 00:54:43   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
thom w wrote:
If you don't make certain choices you can find many doors closed to you. You (in this case you are a long ways away, so you is a collective you) don't have a right to put my health at risk. Quarantines have been used before. I'm not in a position to say that is the right action here, but it may be, and it has been in the past.


You have zero rights regarding anyone else's healthcare. Good God man, don't you work in a hospital? If your health is at risk then you should quarantine.

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Sep 19, 2021 01:20:59   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
CWGordon wrote:
Steven: all the righties on here constantly ask us to do their homework for them. The burden is on you, if you want to challenge my position. If you don’t that is ok, too. My experience is that no matter what I would write, it won’t matter, anyway.
Google her, or look at media other than Newsmax, OAN, QAnon, or Fox. I think you will have no trouble learning who she is and the outrageous things she says. It is easy and the stuff she says is, at minimum…
Good hunting.

This is unbelievable. You make aspersions about people and you are too lazy to even say what they did???

I am not "the righties" you have dealt with on this site. I have never asked anybody in my life to "go do your own homework." If I make an accusation, I will back it up with facts or an explanation of some kind, or links to some information. You are no different than the other lefties here who just sit back making grand pronouncements and refuse to back-up such pronouncements. You expect everybody to just believe your statements as if it were the word of God. You don't even seem to comprehend the complete shallowness of this behavior.

Leftists are always bragging about being the "intellectuals" and having "nuanced positions" and being "educated" while branding Conservatives as being cavemen and Neanderthals who can't put two words together. And here, I can't even get you to defend your position!

I am not even asking for a dissertation or deep analysis. I'M JUST ASKING FOR AN EXAMPLE OF A FRIGGING LIE FROM THIS LADY! I've figured out by now that you don't even know one, do you?? If you did, you would have told me by now.

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Sep 19, 2021 07:45:38   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
CWGordon wrote:
Steven: all the righties on here constantly ask us to do their homework for them. The burden is on you, if you want to challenge my position. If you don’t that is ok, too. My experience is that no matter what I would write, it won’t matter, anyway.
Google her, or look at media other than Newsmax, OAN, QAnon, or Fox. I think you will have no trouble learning who she is and the outrageous things she says. It is easy and the stuff she says is, at minimum…
Good hunting.

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