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Sep 17, 2021 11:18:20   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Wuligal wrote:

You said you convince by example. Image this scenario: two people (both vaccinated, both wearing masks) standing on the street trying to convince a crowd of people of the virtues of their product. The first person attempts to sell his product by yelling, blaming, tossing out insults, name calling and making threats of death. The second person (who is selling the same product) patiently listens to the fears of his audience, counters with only certified data and cracks a few jokes. Which technique do you think will work the best?
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Neither will work because the vocal anti-vaxers constitute a cult.

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Sep 17, 2021 11:20:47   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Wuligal wrote:
My scenario was one of imagination, the point being: you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

You might want to recheck the data about the unvaxed in this nation: The majority are either well educated or people of color and has it no connection with political parties.

I know nothing about Australia or your government so I say nothing.....but I sure would like to see Ayers Rock. I have a question. Is it true that before you become a citizen of Australia you must have a certain amount of money or resources?
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You think the people living in rural northern Idaho and rural northern Pennsylvania are well educated or Black?

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Sep 17, 2021 15:11:59   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
berchman wrote:
Neither will work because the vocal anti-vaxers constitute a cult.


If Anti-vaxers are cultists so are the "Vax or die" people:

....a cult is a social group that is defined by its beliefs or common interest in a particular goal.

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Sep 17, 2021 15:15:17   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
berchman wrote:
You think the people living in rural northern Idaho and rural northern Pennsylvania are well educated or Black?


Likely NEITHER!

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Sep 17, 2021 15:17:11   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
berchman wrote:
Hatred of trump is a virtue.


I don't believe hatred of anyone is a virtue. Having said that, I do somewhat despise him.

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Sep 17, 2021 15:21:22   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Wuligal wrote:
If Anti-vaxers are cultists so are the "Vax or die" people:

....a cult is a social group that is defined by its beliefs or common interest in a particular goal.


...and is impervious to information contrary to its beliefs.

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Sep 17, 2021 15:21:26   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Wuligal wrote:
I too am "double vaxed" but had I thought that Trump or Fauchi stirred so much as a molecule into the vaccine that was going into my arm I wouldn't have taken it. I trusted completely in the scientists that really understand such matters - not those that market it!

Meanwhile, you have blamed and criticised me for everything from not using a full quote to the people I vote for. That strategy will not convince one single person to get the vaccine . The real insanity is this an issue on which we agree - vaccinations save lives.

You said you convince by example. Image this scenario: two people (both vaccinated, both wearing masks) standing on the street trying to convince a crowd of people of the virtues of their product. The first person attempts to sell his product by yelling, blaming, tossing out insults, name calling and making threats of death. The second person (who is selling the same product) patiently listens to the fears of his audience, counters with only certified data and cracks a few jokes. Which technique do you think will work the best?
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In your comparison of Trump and Biden (seems to me) I like the Biden approach.

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Sep 17, 2021 15:58:51   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
In a couple of days Florida will pass New York in total deaths ( yester by had 54 and Florida had over 1500.
One person responsible - the governor !!

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