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Sep 14, 2021 10:21:02   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Here are just a few reasons why the vaccine mandate is one of the most dangerous things any president can do. First- the vaccine is NOT manditory for everyone to end the spread of covid. As a rresult the mandate is useless in stopping the spread. Second- if a president can ORDER every one to take the vaccine, even if it may harm them, that president can order the citizenry to do ANYTHING. And just in case you believe that it has never happened, it has. In a time of peace the president at the time. (early 20th century_) ORDERED and carried out the forced sterilization of thousands of women. Yea the pandemic is a serious problem. Many have died ( about 700,000 Americans). But as a percentage of the population the survival rate is very high. Roughly 98%. and for those under 65 roughly 99.5%. Nowhere high enough to warrant mandates, Biden's mandate is NOT a health issue, the science prooves it. It is the ultimate power grab. What will be the next mandate?

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Sep 14, 2021 11:02:58   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
boberic wrote:
Here are just a few reasons why the vaccine mandate is one of the most dangerous things any president can do. First- the vaccine is NOT manditory for everyone to end the spread of covid. As a rresult the mandate is useless in stopping the spread. Second- if a president can ORDER every one to take the vaccine, even if it may harm them, that president can order the citizenry to do ANYTHING. And just in case you believe that it has never happened, it has. In a time of peace the president at the time. (early 20th century_) ORDERED and carried out the forced sterilization of thousands of women. Yea the pandemic is a serious problem. Many have died ( about 700,000 Americans). But as a percentage of the population the survival rate is very high. Roughly 98%. and for those under 65 roughly 99.5%. Nowhere high enough to warrant mandates, Biden's mandate is NOT a health issue, the science prooves it. It is the ultimate power grab. What will be the next mandate?
Here are just a few reasons why the vaccine mandat... (show quote)


It will be interesting to see how this rolls out. I work for a company that has about 3,000 us employees and politically at the leadership level I would say it's very progressive. So far they have not acknowledged the president's speech. That may be because OSHA has not formulated a rule yet, and they're waiting to see. Still, I normally get some bit of woke-ism from corporate every week and so far we've had crickets on this topic.

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Sep 14, 2021 12:41:42   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
boberic wrote:
Here are just a few reasons why the vaccine mandate is one of the most dangerous things any president can do. First- the vaccine is NOT manditory for everyone to end the spread of covid. As a rresult the mandate is useless in stopping the spread. Second- if a president can ORDER every one to take the vaccine, even if it may harm them, that president can order the citizenry to do ANYTHING. And just in case you believe that it has never happened, it has. In a time of peace the president at the time. (early 20th century_) ORDERED and carried out the forced sterilization of thousands of women. Yea the pandemic is a serious problem. Many have died ( about 700,000 Americans). But as a percentage of the population the survival rate is very high. Roughly 98%. and for those under 65 roughly 99.5%. Nowhere high enough to warrant mandates, Biden's mandate is NOT a health issue, the science prooves it. It is the ultimate power grab. What will be the next mandate?
Here are just a few reasons why the vaccine mandat... (show quote)


Fear-mongering again. BS.

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Sep 14, 2021 14:59:07   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Kraken wrote:
Fear-mongering again. BS.


There are times you should be afraid. Ultimate federal power is one of those times.

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Sep 15, 2021 12:05:46   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Another BIG lie by Biden, "I will end Covid without mandates". This is a double lie. Under Biden over 270,000 people have died, much more than under President Trump and with dictator-like Biden mandates.

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Sep 15, 2021 13:06:38   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Another BIG lie by Biden, "I will end Covid without mandates". This is a double lie. Under Biden over 270,000 people have died, much more than under President Trump and with dictator-like Biden mandates.


Where is your link or are you shooting off your mouth?

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Sep 15, 2021 13:10:02   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
Kraken wrote:
Where is your link or are you shooting off your mouth?


perhaps he's missing a link or the missing link, take your pick.

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Sep 15, 2021 13:14:07   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
boberic wrote:
Here are just a few reasons why the vaccine mandate is one of the most dangerous things any president can do. First- the vaccine is NOT manditory for everyone to end the spread of covid. As a rresult the mandate is useless in stopping the spread. Second- if a president can ORDER every one to take the vaccine, even if it may harm them, that president can order the citizenry to do ANYTHING. And just in case you believe that it has never happened, it has. In a time of peace the president at the time. (early 20th century_) ORDERED and carried out the forced sterilization of thousands of women. Yea the pandemic is a serious problem. Many have died ( about 700,000 Americans). But as a percentage of the population the survival rate is very high. Roughly 98%. and for those under 65 roughly 99.5%. Nowhere high enough to warrant mandates, Biden's mandate is NOT a health issue, the science prooves it. It is the ultimate power grab. What will be the next mandate?
Here are just a few reasons why the vaccine mandat... (show quote)


The ultramate power grab is repukes trying restricting voting

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Sep 15, 2021 13:15:04   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
perhaps he's missing a link or the missing link, take your pick.


The missing links are the repukes

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Sep 15, 2021 14:12:56   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kraken wrote:
Where is your link or are you shooting off your mouth?


I never see any links from you.

225,000 Covid deaths under Trump in 11 months. 275,000 Covid deaths under Biden in 8 months. And Biden had the benefit of 3 vaccines for the entire time. Trump, none.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/05/dems-blamed-trump-for-covid-deaths-but-now-wont-blame-biden/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/15/andy-slavitt-coronavirus-americans-sacrifice-little-bit

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Sep 15, 2021 14:32:29   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I never see any links from you.

225,000 Covid deaths under Trump in 11 months. 275,000 Covid deaths under Biden in 8 months. And Biden had the benefit of 3 vaccines for the entire time. Trump, none.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/05/dems-blamed-trump-for-covid-deaths-but-now-wont-blame-biden/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/15/andy-slavitt-coronavirus-americans-sacrifice-little-bit


Liar, every damn time I post something I read on the internet the

link always comes with it. I don't want to be accused of making stuff

up like you far-right fantasy dwellers like to do. No link makes you a liar.

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Sep 15, 2021 14:35:07   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I never see any links from you.

225,000 Covid deaths under Trump in 11 months. 275,000 Covid deaths under Biden in 8 months. And Biden had the benefit of 3 vaccines for the entire time. Trump, none.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/05/dems-blamed-trump-for-covid-deaths-but-now-wont-blame-biden/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/15/andy-slavitt-coronavirus-americans-sacrifice-little-bit


It would be a lot less if the trump supporters would stop the pollicization of getting the vaccine. 80 million people voted for trump; 80 million refuse to get the vaccine. Coincidence? Most trump supporters are anti-vaxxers. Too bad they don't listen to their cohorts who change their mind about vaccination when it became too late to help them.

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Sep 15, 2021 15:34:08   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
It would be a lot less if the trump supporters would stop the pollicization of getting the vaccine. 80 million people voted for trump; 80 million refuse to get the vaccine. Coincidence? Most trump supporters are anti-vaxxers. Too bad they don't listen to their cohorts who change their mind about vaccination when it became too late to help them.


BS

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Sep 15, 2021 16:11:13   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
letmedance wrote:
BS


Only to a trump supporter. Why are the red states with the lowest vaccination rate and highest non-vaccinated hospital admissions?

"As of September 13, 2021, 52.8% of people in counties that voted for Biden were fully vaccinated compared to 39.9% of Trump counties, a 12.9 percentage point difference (Figure 1). While the rate of vaccination coverage has slowed in both county groups, the gap has widened over time (Figure 2)."

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccination-rates/

Check the chart in this link:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

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Sep 15, 2021 16:50:38   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Still supposition.

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