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Sep 7, 2021 15:06:44   #
dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Today's film is netter as well.

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Sep 7, 2021 18:56:40   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
I am semi-retired but, oddly, have less time for photography these days, or less energy. But I am starting to try making b/w negatives on 4x5 (as I used to do), which I can develop without a darkroom and then scan for digital printing--I no longer have the big enlarger. I can also attach the Canon to the 4x5s but of course the sensor is tiny compared to the 4x5 film. Still, it does let me use all the big classic lenses and the camera adjustments. My avatar picture here above was taken with an 8x10 camera with the Canon on the back, using a big Schneider lens. Ilford makes a 4x5 paper that you can shoot in the camera instead of negative film, then scan the paper. Because large format is no longer the main format for pros (or anybody but artists and enthusiasts), the cost is lower than it was. I saw somebody who found a Speed Graphic in good working order with good lens for $50 in a junk store, but they still fetch several hundred on eBay. I learned large format from books (especially Ansel Adams, peace be upon him) at my nearby public library and one old retired pro.
I am semi-retired but, oddly, have less time for p... (show quote)


Interesting. I'm feeling the less time/less energy thing as well :/ I still have a few medium format TLRs and folding cameras for 120 and 220 roll film and three enlargers, one medium format and two 35mm. I don't have a place to set them up. I can develop my film but I have avoided scanning it simply because once that is done it becomes digital and I may as well just use a digital camera. IMO. I too am self taught and studied Ansel Adams a lot. I'm going to look into the 4X5 Ilford paper thing. I've always liked Ilford products.

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Sep 7, 2021 19:52:01   #
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dbrugger25 wrote:
Many years ago film didn't have the high resolution that todays high megapixel digital cameras have. If you wanted large prints, you needed to use large film and a darkroom to process everything. The Speed Graphic used 4" X 5" film and you needed film cassettes to hold the film.

There was no such thing as rapid sequence. If the subject was in motion we had to anticipate the shot and press the trigger button at the perfect moment, if there was one.

You had to insert the cassette in the back of a Speed Graphic, remove a light-proof panel and take the photo. The lenses were usually f:4.8 or smaller and you usually needed a bulb flash for indoor photos. I had a Crown Graphic in 1959 and took a lot of great photos.

I also still have a Rolleiflex 2,8D twin lens reflex that takes 2-1/4" square photos on 120 roll film.

People who have always had 35mm cameras and more recently, digital cameras have it so easy. The ability to process photos in Lightroom and Photoshop while sitting in the comfort of an easy chair is wonderful. We can now concentrate on capturing great images and doing creative editing as opposed to learning all the darkroom and chemical processing associated with film. Just the ability to immediately see an image on a display in the back of the camera is now something I take for granted.

I have to admit that the waiting and anticipation associated with film and processing was an exciting part of photography in the days before digital photography.
Many years ago film didn't have the high resolutio... (show quote)

Kids today ........

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Sep 7, 2021 20:00:37   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
Here is a site for people who use paper negatives:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1438777439673554/discussion/preview
Many of those members use a homemade box camera with pinhole. You can buy pinholes of good quality on eBay; the larger holes give wider angle, but all of them have extremely deep depth of field. I have thought of using one on the 4x5 but have not tried it.

They often use old paper just to see results.The Ilford paper is positive print paper, very slow: ISO 1. It is ortho high-contrast, but can be more normal with flashing (blank pre-exposure of white light).
https://www.freestylephoto.biz/1171158-Ilford-Direct-Positive-Paper-FB-F1K-Glossy-4x5-25-Sheets

I think you are right that digitizing 35mm film is not seriously better than digital files, though a good medium format neg might scan a bigger and better image. I have not tried it.

The Ansel Adams textbooks are largely irrelevant today except for the optical science and the artistic mindset--and of course large format photography for artists.

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Sep 7, 2021 20:18:07   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
redhogbill wrote:
I thought with all the Nikon vs canon vs "???????"
It would be fun to chime in and let us know what camera you use.

This is not a thread for arguing about what is better or throwing stones! not what lens you use, just what Brand camera you use....{you don't even have to say what model camera it is, unless you want to}

2 Nikon's for me
1 Olympus P&S


My twins and I use two Panasonic Lumix GH4 bodies and one GH5 body and various Lumix lenses... plus old Canon and Nikon film lenses with adapters. It should be noted the twins are wannabe filmmakers.

I have used Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Minolta, Yashica, Calumet, Bronica, Mamiya, Camerz, Olympus, and Panasonic gear over the years, for various reasons. All did or do the job. I gave up on Canon and Nikon years ago when they dragged their feet getting decent mirrorless stills/video hybrid offerings out the door. Panasonic rules that roost.

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Sep 7, 2021 21:06:51   #
Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California
 
john vance wrote:
Nikon, Pentax and a cannon.


A cannon? A cannon is an artillery piece that shoots projectiles. Canon makes cameras, not cannons!

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Sep 7, 2021 21:08:28   #
Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California
 
carney2 wrote:
Nikon DSLR
Fuji mirrorless


Fuji doesn't make cameras, FujiFilm makes cameras. Fuji makes bicycles.

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Sep 7, 2021 21:09:48   #
Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California
 
boberic wrote:
oK! i'll ask whats the cannon for.


Usually for shooting the enemy.

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Sep 7, 2021 21:24:16   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
James56 wrote:
Sony
Sony and
Sony


James, Do you like Sony?

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Sep 7, 2021 21:38:21   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
Earworms wrote:
Fuji doesn't make cameras, FujiFilm makes cameras. Fuji makes bicycles.


Next you will try to tell us Nikon does not make sneakers.

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Sep 7, 2021 22:01:50   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
skywolf wrote:
I've been a Nikon man since 1972, though I do have an ancient Minolta 35mm that still works.


Great loyalty for Nikon

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Sep 7, 2021 23:53:37   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
Here is a site for people who use paper negatives:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1438777439673554/discussion/preview
Many of those members use a homemade box camera with pinhole. You can buy pinholes of good quality on eBay; the larger holes give wider angle, but all of them have extremely deep depth of field. I have thought of using one on the 4x5 but have not tried it.

They often use old paper just to see results.The Ilford paper is positive print paper, very slow: ISO 1. It is ortho high-contrast, but can be more normal with flashing (blank pre-exposure of white light).
https://www.freestylephoto.biz/1171158-Ilford-Direct-Positive-Paper-FB-F1K-Glossy-4x5-25-Sheets

I think you are right that digitizing 35mm film is not seriously better than digital files, though a good medium format neg might scan a bigger and better image. I have not tried it.

The Ansel Adams textbooks are largely irrelevant today except for the optical science and the artistic mindset--and of course large format photography for artists.
Here is a site for people who use paper negatives:... (show quote)


Thanks, I'll check out the links.

I still find myself running Ansel Adam's Zone System through my mind when I'm in awkward lighting situations. I suppose it is just common sense by now, but I learned it when it first hit Photographic magazine. :-)
As well, his work on landscape composition is common sense by now meaning that any reputable landscape book teaches what were breakthroughs in his day.

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Sep 8, 2021 00:01:07   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
Great loyalty for Nikon


Hmmm 1972, it was a Petri rangefinder. I always wanted a Nikon or Minolta with interchangeable lenses, I thought that was so cool. My next camera ended up being a Yashica A TLR and I got hooked on medium format and didn't pick up a 35mm with changeable lenses until 1990. :-)

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Sep 8, 2021 03:46:38   #
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Charles 46277 wrote:
Here is a site for people who use paper negatives:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1438777439673554/discussion/preview
Many of those members use a homemade box camera with pinhole. You can buy pinholes of good quality on eBay; the larger holes give wider angle, but all of them have extremely deep depth of field. I have thought of using one on the 4x5 but have not tried it.

They often use old paper just to see results.The Ilford paper is positive print paper, very slow: ISO 1. It is ortho high-contrast, but can be more normal with flashing (blank pre-exposure of white light).
https://www.freestylephoto.biz/1171158-Ilford-Direct-Positive-Paper-FB-F1K-Glossy-4x5-25-Sheets

I think you are right that digitizing 35mm film is not seriously better than digital files, though a good medium format neg might scan a bigger and better image. I have not tried it.

The Ansel Adams textbooks are largely irrelevant today except for the optical science and the artistic mindset--and of course large format photography for artists.
Here is a site for people who use paper negatives:... (show quote)


A larger hole does NOT produce a wider angle. Angle is still dependeton FL even without any glass. A larger hole will just produce a softer image.

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Sep 8, 2021 09:15:40   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
User ID wrote:
A larger hole does NOT produce a wider angle. Angle is still dependeton FL even without any glass. A larger hole will just produce a softer image.


Sorry, that sounds right, but does the focal length relate somehow to the hole size? As I said, I never tried it.The pinhole plate I bought fits a Canon mount, so the FL is fixed, but on a view camera it can be variable. Somewhere I got it in my head that the larger ones were for shorter FL.

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