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Aug 27, 2021 21:00:46   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Previous Covid Prevents Delta Infection Better Than Pfizer Shot

People who recovered from a bout of COVID-19 during one of the earlier waves of the pandemic appear to have a lower risk of contracting the delta variant than those who got two doses of the vaccine from Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE.

The largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity—gained from an earlier infection—to the protection provided by one of the most potent vaccines currently in use showed that reinfections were much less common. The paper from researchers in Israel contrasts with earlier studies, which showed that immunizations offered better protection than an earlier infection, though those studies were not of the delta variant.

The results are good news for patients who already successfully battled COVID-19, but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic. People given both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine were almost six-fold more likely to contract a delta infection and seven-fold more likely to have symptomatic disease than those who recovered.

“This analysis demonstrated that natural immunity affords longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization due to the delta variant,” the researchers said.


The analysis also showed that protection from an earlier infection wanes with time. The risk of a vaccine-breakthrough delta case was 13-fold higher than the risk of developing a second infection when the original illness occurred during January or February 2021. That’s significantly more than the risk for people who were ill earlier in the outbreak.

Giving a single shot of the vaccine to those who had been previously infected also appeared to boost their protection. The long-term benefit of a booster dose of the inoculation, which has just recently begun in Israel, is unknown.

The data was posted as a preprint article on medRxiv, and hasn’t yet been reviewed by other researchers.

https://fortune.com/2021/08/27/covid-natural-immunity-vaccine-delta-variant-pfizer-protection/

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Aug 27, 2021 21:04:22   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Thank you

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Aug 27, 2021 22:46:15   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
A while back CDC reported that immunity from a previous infection lasts about six months and then quickly deteriorates

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Aug 27, 2021 23:13:11   #
BadPhoto Loc: Maryland
 
This may be good news for those that already recovered from COVID. But, the long term effects of COVID infection have yet to be determined. COVID is a vascular disease, not a respiratory disease, and the long term effects of COVID may be impact to many different organs. It is still better to be vaccinated and not get COVID, than to have gotten COVID. And it is not clear whether getting COVID after being vaccinated is different from getting COVID without being vaccinated. One thing is clear; there are a lot of cases in all permutations that can be followed for years to determine this.

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Aug 28, 2021 03:27:36   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
BadPhoto wrote:
This may be good news for those that already recovered from COVID. But, the long term effects of COVID infection have yet to be determined. COVID is a vascular disease, not a respiratory disease, and the long term effects of COVID may be impact to many different organs. It is still better to be vaccinated and not get COVID, than to have gotten COVID. And it is not clear whether getting COVID after being vaccinated is different from getting COVID without being vaccinated. One thing is clear; there are a lot of cases in all permutations that can be followed for years to determine this.
This may be good news for those that already recov... (show quote)


Good point.

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Aug 28, 2021 05:54:50   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Good deal for those that survive!

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Aug 28, 2021 07:12:22   #
Rose42
 
tramsey wrote:
A while back CDC reported that immunity from a previous infection lasts about six months and then quickly deteriorates


Thats what they found in Israel. It was 5 months IIRC.

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Aug 28, 2021 07:59:52   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Yes, Blurryeyed, I agree, getting infected is the best prevention of future infection. True of other historic diseases Paralyzing Polio, Death-scar producing Small Pox, exquisitely painful dengue fever, and even quick to bleed out Ebola if you are one of the few who live. Indeed, avoid vaccines since nature provides immunity and culls out conservative fools.
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The above is in my list of simple answers for simple minds.... agreeing by "reduction to absurdity" an impractical conclusion.** Approach is arguing by agreeing to reveal that the premise is foolish.

**In logic, reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to absurdity"), also known as argumentum ad absurdum (Latin for "argument to absurdity"), apagogical arguments, negation introduction or the appeal to extremes, is the form of argument that attempts to establish a claim by showing that the opposite scenario would lead to absurdity or contradiction. It can be used to disprove a statement by showing that it would inevitably lead to a ridiculous, absurd, or impractical conclusion,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

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Aug 28, 2021 11:29:01   #
Watash
 
[quote=tramsey]A while back CDC reported that immunity from a previous infection lasts about six months and then quickly deteriorates

In my opinion, the CDC has lost most of its credibility, if not all. I honestly believe it is
now a political propaganda arm of "The Party".

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Aug 28, 2021 11:40:17   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
[quote=Watosh]
tramsey wrote:
A while back CDC reported that immunity from a previous infection lasts about six months and then quickly deteriorates

In my opinion, the CDC has lost most of its credibility, if not all. I honestly believe it is
now a political propaganda arm of "The Party".


That is your opinion, NOT to be confused with facts.

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Aug 28, 2021 11:57:26   #
Watash
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
That is your opinion, NOT to be confused with facts.


I thought I said that it was my opinion.
I doubled checked and yes, yes I did say it was my opinion.
Some of the words must have fallen into the ocean on the trip to HI.

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Aug 28, 2021 12:05:15   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
Watosh wrote:
I thought I said that it was my opinion.
I doubled checked and yes, yes I did say it was my opinion.
Some of the words must have fallen into the ocean on the trip to HI.


Yes, you did say it was your opinion. I agreed with you.
I double checked and I agree it was your opinion.
What words fell into the ocean on their way here?
Do you always argue when someone agrees with you?

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Aug 28, 2021 12:19:34   #
Watash
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
Yes, you did say it was your opinion. I agreed with you.
I double checked and I agree it was your opinion.
What words fell into the ocean on their way here?
Do you always argue when someone agrees with you?


Sorry, but yes I do. Bad habit.
Are you and Kracken related?

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Aug 28, 2021 12:20:27   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dpullum wrote:
Yes, Blurryeyed, I agree, getting infected is the best prevention of future infection. True of other historic diseases Paralyzing Polio, Death-scar producing Small Pox, exquisitely painful dengue fever, and even quick to bleed out Ebola if you are one of the few who live. Indeed, avoid vaccines since nature provides immunity and culls out conservative fools.
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The above is in my list of simple answers for simple minds.... agreeing by "reduction to absurdity" an impractical conclusion.** Approach is arguing by agreeing to reveal that the premise is foolish.

**In logic, reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to absurdity"), also known as argumentum ad absurdum (Latin for "argument to absurdity"), apagogical arguments, negation introduction or the appeal to extremes, is the form of argument that attempts to establish a claim by showing that the opposite scenario would lead to absurdity or contradiction. It can be used to disprove a statement by showing that it would inevitably lead to a ridiculous, absurd, or impractical conclusion,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
Yes, Blurryeyed, I agree, getting infected is the ... (show quote)


Hey Smart Guy, nobody suggested what your screed assumes..... Jeezsh!

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Aug 28, 2021 12:22:42   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
That is your opinion, NOT to be confused with facts.


But Biden said you guys don't believe in facts.

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